# Kirk Cameron caught in a gay bar?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 26, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444 "2010-10-26T21:28:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/41 "2010-10-27T04:58:23Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Why would his wife lock him out if it was innocent? Maybe she’s just sick of hearing about the banana. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/42 "2010-10-27T05:14:53Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Sounds too much like wishful thinking. Besides, if Cameron were in a gay bar it’d probably be to witness. To witness what? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/43 "2010-10-27T05:16:41Z")
> [@Markxxx](#): > > \ I’ve ever come across.\ Heh heh heh. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/44 "2010-10-27T05:19:11Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > What a lot of arguing about an unsupported rumor. You got something better to do? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/45 "2010-10-27T06:19:36Z")
This is his way of proving homosexuality is a choice. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/46 "2010-10-27T07:05:27Z")
I’m straight, and I’ve been in gay bars a few times. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/47 "2010-10-27T07:12:13Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > I’m straight, and I’ve been in gay bars a few times. Yeh, but unless you’re a well-known fundamentalist Christian and outspoken against teh ghay, doing so would go beyond hypocrite and directly into douchebaggery of the highest order. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/48 "2010-10-27T07:17:46Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > It’s a “blind item” which is very common on gossip sites, but almost always turn out to be true. They refuse to name names, partially for privacy, partially to avoid lawsuits, but they tend to paint a reasonably clear picture so you can make an educated guess. Occasionally they do reveal who it was, much later. No, they don’t almost always turn out to be true. And even when there’s some truth to them, it’s usually just that: a grain of truth inside a cloud of overblown dramatics. They’re free to exaggerate because they’re not naming names. ---
**Author:** ![Student\_Driver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@Student\_Driver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Student_Driver)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/49 "2010-10-27T12:51:12Z")
(Assuming it is Kirk…) Kirk Cameron and his wife seem to be of the ultra-conservative stripe of Christianity that would find simply being in a _bar_ to be scandalous. I could see him being locked out of his home for simply being caught in a bar, even if he genuinely had no clue the bar in question was a gay bar or not. Spoken from experience with ultra-conservative Christianity. Cooking with wine, even using Dijon mustard, is scandalous. If you’re seen by a fellow church-goer at a grocery with a bottle of vodka sauce for your pasta dinner, you’ll probably be taken aside by the pastor that Sunday. Seen entering a movie theater or dance studio, you’re in trouble. That kind of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/50 "2010-10-27T13:09:39Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Then why did his wife lock him out of the house? Perhaps, like people in this thread, she mistakenly assumes since he went to a gay bar he must have been there guzzling cock. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I’m going to go ahead and assume it’s true, just because it’s more fun to do so. Yeah. me too. Well, at least I’ll be hoping it’s true. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/51 "2010-10-27T13:20:05Z")
Eh, I’m dubious. Despite confirmation bias that seems to indicate otherwise, most religious conservatives are _not_ secretly gay. Cameron is opposed to homosexuality as part of his religion but I don’t see him to be particularly preoccupied with it. I could be wrong, but I see it more likely that either it’s a different celebrity altogether or the whole incident has been misrepresented. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/52 "2010-10-27T13:31:36Z")
> [@Student\_Driver](#): > > (Assuming it is Kirk…) Kirk Cameron and his wife seem to be of the ultra-conservative stripe of Christianity that would find simply being in a _bar_ to be scandalous. I could see him being locked out of his home for simply being caught in a bar, even if he genuinely had no clue the bar in question was a gay bar or not. I would consider them to be very conservative, but not “ultra-conservative.” That is, not to the point that merely being caught in a bar would get somebody locked out of his home. Chelsea Noble’s manner of dress, for example, would argue against being ultra-conservative. She dresses in a reasonably modest way without going to any extremes. > [@](#): > > Spoken from experience with ultra-conservative Christianity. Cooking with wine, even using Dijon mustard, is scandalous. Speaking as someone who also has experience with conservative Christianity, I’d consider that to be an exaggeration. Cooking with wine might conceivably be considered distasteful, but it would hardly be “scandalous.” For that matter, I seriously doubt that ultra-conservatives in general would take that approach to cooking with wine in general. Drinking wine, yes, but cooking with wine? I seriously doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/53 "2010-10-27T13:34:02Z")
**foolsguinea** is right. People are getting excited about an unsupported rumor – one which, in its original form, did not even name Kirk Cameron at all. Calm down, folks. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/54 "2010-10-27T15:43:59Z")
I figure that somehow it was his [computer’s fault](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireproof_(film)). ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/55 "2010-10-27T16:00:05Z")
If the article didn’t mention the wife, I’d assume it was about Kirk’s co-star Leonardo DiCaprio. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/56 "2010-10-27T16:03:11Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > If the article didn’t mention the wife, I’d assume it was about Kirk’s co-star Leonardo DiCaprio. The article mentioned the celeb was “uber-conservative,” and Leo’s not exactly known for being a supporter of conservative causes. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/57 "2010-10-27T16:07:14Z")
Obviously, it was Alan Thicke. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/58 "2010-10-27T16:42:57Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I’m going to go ahead and assume it’s true, just because it’s more fun to do so. A theocon’s holy and pious But political judgment is biased By his mind filled with floods Of the cries of hung studs: “Come into the closet and try us!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/59 "2010-10-27T16:43:06Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I’m going to go ahead and assume it’s true, just because it’s more fun to do so. Plus, then I get to make this bad joke: His marriage may have been fireproof, but I guess it wasn’t flamer-proof! [For those with no clue what I’m on about.](http://www.fireproofthemovie.com/) ---
**Author:** ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444/60 "2010-10-27T17:43:52Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > If the article didn’t mention the wife, I’d assume it was about Kirk’s co-star Leonardo DiCaprio. Despite the popularity of [this picture](http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/demotivational-posters-i-feel-pretty.jpg) I can’t imagine Leo as being gay. He strikes me as someone who enjoys the ladies. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-caught-in-a-gay-bar/558444.md?page=4)