# Kirk Cameron proved that God exists. Take that, atheists! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 13, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954 "2007-05-13T19:26:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/1 "2007-05-13T19:26:24Z")
> **[Kirk Cameron proves that God exists.](https://slate.com/culture/2007/05/kirk-cameron-proves-that-god-exists.html)** > > Wednesday's installment of Nightline (ABC) marked the first "Nightline Face-Off," in which, according to a press release, "hot topics get discussed... > [@](#): > > In Cameron’s introductory remarks at the debate—which can be seen at something like its full and numbing length at [abcnews.go.com](http://abcnews.go.com)—he coolly claimed that “the existence of God can be proven 100 percent, absolutely without the use of faith.” First, I grew excited at this promise, then began to wonder why no theologian, philosopher, or sitcom star in recorded history had done it before—Thomas Aquinas, Immanuel Kant, Tina Yothers, whoever—and realized I was in for a letdown. > [@](#): > > the God Squad had but three arguments on behalf of the big guy: All things have makers; the human conscience is evidence of a higher moral power; if you read the Gospel, then Christ will be revealed to you. Man, and I thought the banana thing was convincing… ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/2 "2007-05-13T19:31:13Z")
You know, if he’d have gone the way of other child stars, with the drugs, orgies, and lavish lifestyle, before winding up in the gutter, or pimping himself in strange ways on “reality TV” like Danny Bonnaduce, I could feel sorry for the guy. Now, however, all I feel is something like contempt, mixed with the disgust you get when you find you’ve stepped in dog poop. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/3 "2007-05-13T20:49:18Z")
All things have makers … apart from God. ---
**Author:** ![Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kneepants_Erasmus_the_Humanist)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/4 "2007-05-13T21:28:47Z")
Ah. That’s always been my favorite argument. “God is real because it says so in the Bible.” If that’s not proof I don’t know what is. ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/5 "2007-05-13T21:57:44Z")
Who the fuck is Kirk Cameron? No, wait—I don’t really want to know. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/6 "2007-05-13T22:01:35Z")
[QUOTE=Subterraneanus] Who the fuck is Kirk Cameron? No, wait—I don’t really want to know. [/QUOTE] [He’s the nimrod who thinks that God designed bananas with a handy pull tab.](http://youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/7 "2007-05-13T22:52:20Z")
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan] [He’s the nimrod who thinks that God designed bananas with a handy pull tab.](http://youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4) [/QUOTE] Are these people able to go to the toilet unaided? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/8 "2007-05-13T22:57:29Z")
[QUOTE=The Librarian] Are these people able to go to the toilet unaided? [/QUOTE] Yes, and even more frighteningly, many of them have _spawned!_ :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/9 "2007-05-13T23:25:03Z")
Go froth and… ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/10 "2007-05-14T00:16:26Z")
[QUOTE=Revtim] > **[Kirk Cameron proves that God exists.](https://slate.com/culture/2007/05/kirk-cameron-proves-that-god-exists.html)** > > Wednesday's installment of Nightline (ABC) marked the first "Nightline Face-Off," in which, according to a press release, "hot topics get discussed... [/QUOTE] You think reading about it on Slate was bad. . . I actually saw part of the debate on Nightline. Oh my! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/11 "2007-05-14T00:22:56Z")
The most disturbing part is this: > [@](#): > > In the other corner were two representatives of the Rational Response Squad, one operating under the nom de guerre Brian Sapient, the other introduced as “his colleague, known as Kelly.” (The two have received enough death threats from the lambs of Jesus that they find it wise to obscure their surnames.) ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/12 "2007-05-14T00:26:52Z")
[QUOTE=The Librarian] Go froth and.. [/QUOTE] That sounds like a good idea, I think I’ll have a cappuchino. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/13 "2007-05-14T00:27:30Z")
Well, Kirk Cameron is proof that God wants to give us something to laugh at. ---
**Author:** ![zelie\_zelerton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/59ef9b/32.png) [@zelie\_zelerton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zelie_zelerton)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/14 "2007-05-14T00:30:11Z")
> [@](#): > > Take that, atheists! Oh I feel so pwnzrd. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/15 "2007-05-14T00:47:22Z")
There is a long tradition among actors that it generally takes a fairly bright person to portray an idiot or a fool or a ditz. Gracie Allen, for example, is reputed to have been very smart. Of course, then you have the counter-examples where a complete idiot was simply typecast as a complete idiot: Kirk Cameron. ---
**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/16 "2007-05-14T00:59:02Z")
[QUOTE=Kneepants Erasmus, the Humanist] Ah. That’s always been my favorite argument. “God is real because it says so in the Bible.” If that’s not proof I don’t know what is. [/QUOTE] Well, It still doesn’t answer why God spelled backwards is,…(wait for it) dog. So, I’m not totally convinced - closer, to be sure, but not all the way there. ---
**Author:** ![ForumBot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee59a6/32.png) [@ForumBot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ForumBot)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/17 "2007-05-14T01:11:59Z")
> [@](#): > > At one point, Cameron, mocking the theory of evolution, held up a photo-illustration of a duck with the head of crocodile. Argh, my logical capabilities! They melt before the prowess of the crocoduck! ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/18 "2007-05-14T01:59:47Z")
[QUOTE=ForumBot] Argh, my logical capabilities! They melt before the prowess of the crocoduck! [/QUOTE] 😃 ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/19 "2007-05-14T02:05:00Z")
[QUOTE=ForumBot] Argh, my logical capabilities! They melt before the prowess of the crocoduck! [/QUOTE] Isn’t that one of the newest Pokemon? ---
**Author:** ![Ol\_Gaffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ol\_Gaffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ol_Gaffer)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954/20 "2007-05-14T02:09:28Z")
[QUOTE=ForumBot] Argh, my logical capabilities! They melt before the prowess of the crocoduck! [/QUOTE] I love it! Reminds of the **Kids in the Hall** and the spitty-slurpy sketch. “Where’s your science now?” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-proved-that-god-exists-take-that-atheists/403954.md?page=2)