# Kirk Cameron schools Stephen Hawking in science **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 22, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818 "2011-05-22T21:45:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/1 "2011-05-22T21:45:07Z")
[http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700136489/Stephen-Hawking-vs-Kirk-Cameron-A-heavenly-debate.html](http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700136489/Stephen-Hawking-vs-Kirk-Cameron-A-heavenly-debate.html) > [@](#): > > “I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail,” Hawking told the Guardian last week. “There is no heaven or afterlife for broken-down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.” No way says noted scientitian and crocoduck hunter Kirk Cameron: > [@](#): > > “Professor Hawking is heralded as ‘the genius of Britain,’ yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life,” Cameron said. Take that Hawking! Cameron, whose notable scientific achievements include the documentary “The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes”, clearly knows more about science than that wheelchair guy, who is only known for guest appearances on Matt Groening cartoons. I’m still waiting for Tina Yothers and Scott Baio to weigh in, but I gotta give this one to Cameron. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/2 "2011-05-22T21:50:34Z")
He’s alive? Where are drug addictions when you need them? ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/3 "2011-05-22T21:59:01Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Take that Hawking! Cameron, whose notable scientific achievements include the documentary “The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes”, clearly knows more about science than that wheelchair guy, who is only known for guest appearances on Matt Groening cartoons. Not true. Hawking was also on Star Trek: The Next Generation. Which means that in addition to knowing just a tad more about science, Hawking was also on better TV shows than Kirk Cameron. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/4 "2011-05-22T21:59:35Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > He’s alive? Where are drug addictions when you need them? He’s freebasing pure uncut Jesus, I don’t know what the lethal dose of that is. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/5 "2011-05-22T22:10:59Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > He’s freebasing pure uncut Jesus I have it on good authority that Jesus is circumcised. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/6 "2011-05-22T22:20:11Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > He’s freebasing pure uncut Jesus, I don’t know what the lethal dose of that is. That’s just awesome. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/7 "2011-05-22T22:28:43Z")
Who doesn’t believe that life sprang from non-life? Are there any religions that hold that life has always existed forever and ever? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/8 "2011-05-22T22:42:24Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Who doesn’t believe that life sprang from non-life? Are there any religions that hold that life has always existed forever and ever? I guess it depends on if God is alive or not. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/9 "2011-05-22T22:50:18Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > He’s freebasing pure uncut Jesus, I don’t know what the lethal dose of that is. I wonder if you could create a drink called Messiah Blood and peddle it in Christian bookstores. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/10 "2011-05-22T22:50:52Z")
Xenophanes said that if horses had gods they’d look like horses. I think that if a woman and sex-starved mathematician geek imagined the beginning of the world, then it would have started in a giant orgasmic cosmic bang. Computer geeks probably think the world is only a simulation. ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/11 "2011-05-22T22:53:11Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > I have it on good authority that Jesus is circumcised. I less than three this post. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/12 "2011-05-22T22:55:25Z")
It says the story has been picked up by Fox News, where I’m guessing the headline is _not_ “Former Child Actor Picks on Cripple.” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/13 "2011-05-22T22:56:28Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I wonder if you could create a drink called Messiah Blood and peddle it in Christian bookstores. You can get it hand-fed to you, along with Messiah Flesh, on any Sunday in any Catholic church. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/14 "2011-05-22T22:57:22Z")
Hawking is also a successful rapper, so that’s another thing he’s got on Cameron: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/89jt7zJzkNQ/hqdefault.jpg "MC Hawking - What We Need More Of Is Science") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89jt7zJzkNQ) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/15 "2011-05-22T23:05:12Z")
Subject of a very bizarre[Autotune video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K7KvL5g4sk). ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/16 "2011-05-22T23:12:25Z")
[More of Hawking’s rap work.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn7-fVtT16k) ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/17 "2011-05-22T23:21:42Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > Hawking is also a successful rapper, so that’s another thing he’s got on Cameron: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89jt7zJzkNQ](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89jt7zJzkNQ) [I prefer his older stuff.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bueZoYhUlg&feature=related) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/18 "2011-05-23T00:41:48Z")
Apparently Cameron’s church is going to “teach the controversy” and let Hawking give a sermon every other week. No wait, that just works the other way. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/19 "2011-05-23T00:48:05Z")
Cameron isn’t even original–he apparently lifted most of his material from fellow banana-lover Ray Comfort: [Words of Comfort -- Ray Comfort's Blog: Stephen Hawking's Senseless Atheism](http://raycomfortfood.blogspot.com/2011/05/stephen-hawkings-senseless-atheism.html) ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818/20 "2011-05-23T01:04:33Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I wonder if you could create a drink called Messiah Blood and peddle it in Christian bookstores. The Catholics are already claiming that Tom Aquinas had the idea first! 😛 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-schools-stephen-hawking-in-science/582818.md?page=2)