# Kirk Cameron takes on evolution! Ooooh, scary! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 27, 2006, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495 "2006-04-27T19:01:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/21 "2006-04-28T16:05:15Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > Does that mean spherical, difficult to eat, or irregularly shaped fruits are a test of faith? If God loves me, why can’t I get all the pulp off of my mango pit? God hates little boys and girls with peanut allergies. He wants to kill them all. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/22 "2006-04-28T16:25:11Z")
If the banana is proof that God loves us and wants us to thrive, then the coconut is proof that God hates us, and wants us to die. **"STRANDED ON A DESERT ISLAND, ART THOU? ART THOU HUNGRY AND THIRSTY? THEN BEHOLD THIS WONDERFUL FOOD WHICH I, IN MY OMNISCIENT BENIFICENCE, HATH PROVIDED FOR THEE. GOOD LUCK OPENING IT, RUBE. HA. HA. HA."** I could only watch that video for about fifteen minutes. I kept trying to argue with Kirk, but he didn’t listen. ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/23 "2006-04-28T16:44:39Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > Does that mean spherical, difficult to eat, or irregularly shaped fruits are a test of faith? If God loves me, why can’t I get all the pulp off of my mango pit? Mention not the pathway to Hell that is a pomegranate. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/24 "2006-04-28T17:03:57Z")
> [@Lightnin'](#): > > I could only watch that video for about fifteen minutes. I kept trying to argue with Kirk, but he didn’t listen. And he’d do that if you were sitting right there with him in person. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/25 "2006-04-28T20:01:11Z")
I’m sure many of us realize this but in case someone didn’t: The banana is a paticularly bad choice for proof of creationism, as it’s thoroughly the product of modern agriculture. Man created the bananna, Kirk, not God. Go ahead, find the banana’s wild ancestor. Not so perfect, is it? What you can buy in the store is the result of centuries of selective breeding. And, of course, the radical changes resulting from artificial selection is a big hint that there might be something to that “evolution” thing. There’s also the philosophical problems of a diety that gives us ergonomically perfect fruit but also cancer. ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/26 "2006-04-28T20:15:27Z")
**Behold!** The pineapple of Satan!! ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/27 "2006-04-28T21:23:42Z")
> [@](#): > > There’s also the philosophical problems of a diety that gives us ergonomically perfect fruit but also cancer. Well, if anything would give us a fruit, (good or bad), it ought to be a diety. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/28 "2006-04-28T23:47:15Z")
The sad thing is that there are creationuts out there daft enough to swallow whole this bananinsanity and repeat it verbatim in awed tones as if a)they discovered it and b)it means something. For example, [here](http://www.creationtalk.com/message-board-forum/about748.html) (NB, links to a creation/evolution message board, please do not start a board war) ---
**Author:** ![Mrs\_O\_Malley\_s\_Cow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Mrs\_O\_Malley\_s\_Cow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_O_Malley_s_Cow)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/29 "2006-04-29T02:27:31Z")
_yawn_ ---
**Author:** ![Gotterfunken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/58956e/32.png) [@Gotterfunken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gotterfunken)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/30 "2006-04-29T02:33:39Z")
While channel-surfing one night, I came across a Way of the Master show on a local religious channel. I hadn’t seen Kirk Cameron since the days of _Growing Pains_, and, man, was it painful to watch–but much like a trainwreck as it was impossible for me to look away (or change the channel). I “learned” a lot of interesting information. For instance, did you know that most scientists agree that [Lucy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australopithecus_afarensis) was really just the remains of a large chimpanzee? [Johnny Carson voice]I did not know that.[/Johnny Carson voice]. In that same episode, Kirk and his New Zealander friend tried to book an airline ticket for an orangutan (IIRC), and took the little guy out to dinner at a restaurant. The end result: the airline wouldn’t give the ape a seat, and in the restaurant, he displayed poor table manners. Cameron and his friend concluded that orangutans are so different from human beings that we can’t be related in any way. Ergo, evolution is wrong. I’m ashamed to admit I ever liked _Growing Pains_ (although I never liked it because of Kirk Cameron–I thought Boner was funny. I was thirteen at the time). ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/31 "2006-04-29T02:42:28Z")
> [@SkipMagic](#): > > My God, you’re a Banana Believer, too? I thought Kirk and I were the only ones! Not hardly. His presentation has great appeal. -rimshot- ---
**Author:** ![Dragwyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dragwyr/32/2855_2.png) [@Dragwyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragwyr)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/32 "2006-04-29T04:16:32Z")
Here is a link that addresses this from the atheist viewpoint. [http://www.atheistalliance.org/library/nelson-atheist\_test.php](http://www.atheistalliance.org/library/nelson-atheist_test.php) Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/33 "2006-04-29T11:02:25Z")
> [@Menocchio](#): > > I’m sure many of us realize this but in case someone didn’t: > > The banana is a paticularly bad choice for proof of creationism, as it’s thoroughly the product of modern agriculture. Man created the bananna, Kirk, not God. Go ahead, find the banana’s wild ancestor. Not so perfect, is it? What you can buy in the store is the result of centuries of selective breeding. > > And, of course, the radical changes resulting from artificial selection is a big hint that there might be something to that “evolution” thing. > > There’s also the philosophical problems of a diety that gives us ergonomically perfect fruit but also cancer. But that means it has a crea-tor, right? So, voila, point proven. Again. (See, you can’t go wrong with this _philosophy_) ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/34 "2006-04-29T11:14:24Z")
[In hundred acre woods, evolution takes on you.](http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=193) 😃 This whole banana thing remind anybody else of that Gwen Stefani song? Betcha it does now. ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/35 "2006-05-01T23:33:34Z")
There used to be a guy known as “Eddie the Preacher” or “Crazy Eddie” who hung around Sproul Plaza at UC Berkeley about 10 years ago. I don’t know if he’s still around. Anyway, he used to go on and on and on with some half-intelligible creationist rant that often included the parable of the Coke can and the banana. “Man can’t make a banana, only God can make a banana. Mumble mumble God blah blah banana.” Maybe Kirk Cameron became his disciple. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/36 "2006-05-03T00:03:05Z")
There was a joke in an old _Playboy_ that claimed to be a much older tale. It leaped out of the back of my mind when that sincere, naive preacher showed how nicely the banana fit the human hand. **A cheerfully gay ethnish man explained, "If the creator had intended for my penis to fit into a vagina, it would be shaped like an axe!"** ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495/37 "2006-05-03T00:52:31Z")
**pravnik** , thanks for the good laugh. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-takes-on-evolution-ooooh-scary/354495.md?page=1)