# Kirk Cameron's 150th Anniversary ORIGIN OF SPECIES (expurgated, the one without the gannet)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 22, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147 "2009-09-22T21:52:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/21 "2009-09-23T17:47:51Z")

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Do you have Ethel the Aardvark goes Galapagos Surveying?

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/22 "2009-09-23T17:51:28Z")

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Someone should start a movement for people to go to the colleges where they’re handing those books out, have them all look at them and say, “Interesting, except there’s about 50 pages of nonsense here–” then rip those pages out, then say, “ah, there we go. perfect. thanks!”

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/23 "2009-09-23T18:41:04Z")

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Thanks, **Sapiro** , you just gave me my best laugh of the day. No sarcasm, I agree with everything you said, but your quote from Living Waters:

> [@living waters](#):
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> reveals the dangerous fruit of evolution, Hitler’s undeniable connections to the theory,

That’s just too fucking funny.

You know who else believed in science? … HITLER!

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/24 "2009-09-23T19:01:53Z")

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“Designed for use in schools, colleges, and **prestigious** learning institutions.”

Ya know, like the really really smartest important ones!

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/25 "2009-09-23T19:04:25Z")

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Kevin Bacon was a scientist? I never knew that.

My opinion of scientists has gone way down.

On the other hand, the six degrees of seperation thing just got another notch in its belt.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/26 "2009-09-23T19:07:58Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> You know who else believed in science? … HITLER!

Otto: Apes don’t read philosophy.

Wanda: Yes they do, Otto. They just don’t understand it.

– _A Fish Called Wanda_

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/27 "2009-09-23T19:13:32Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Otto: Apes don’t read philosophy.
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> Wanda: Yes they do, Otto. They just don’t understand it.
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> – _A Fish Called Wanda_

Monkeys aren’t apes, genius.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/28 "2009-09-23T19:16:51Z")

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You have to have the Gannet! It’s a stardard British bird!

And Krik Cameron is an idiot.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/29 "2009-09-23T19:17:02Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> You know who else believed in science? … HITLER!

I also heard he was a vegetarian. Thats all the reason I need to eat meat.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/30 "2009-09-23T19:30:07Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Do you have Ethel the Aardvark goes Galapagos Surveying?

How about Biggles Combs His Recessive, Not Dominant Hair?

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/31 "2009-09-23T19:56:32Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> Someone should start a movement for people to go to the colleges where they’re handing those books out, have them all look at them and say, “Interesting, except there’s about 50 pages of nonsense here–” then rip those pages out, then say, “ah, there we go. perfect. thanks!”

Or perhaps we could get a celebrity atheist to write a foreword for The Bible and hand that out.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/32 "2009-09-23T20:00:24Z")

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> [@Cat\_Fight](#):
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> Or perhaps we could get a celebrity atheist to write a foreword for The Bible and hand that out.

The Gospel According to Kathy Griffin (with a foreward by Bill Maher).

Or an afterward to the Comfort introduction to ORIGIN OF SPECIES by the Honorable Vincent L. Gambini, esq.: “Everything that guy just said is bullshit.”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/33 "2009-09-23T20:20:27Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> I also heard he was a vegetarian. Thats all the reason I need to eat meat.

:dubious: And I suppose if Hitler jumped off the Empire State Building, you **wouldn’t** jump off the Empire State Building!

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/34 "2009-09-23T20:26:59Z")

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No, but I’d lean over the edge and watch the sidewalk heil in Der Fuehrer’s face.

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**Author:** ![toofs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@toofs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toofs)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/35 "2009-09-23T21:50:19Z")

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I went to elementary school with Kirk Cameron. He was doing television commercials at the time, and I remember him being highly intelligent, friendly, and able to solve the Rubik’s Cube in under two minutes, quite a feat at the time. He did not seem as religious as he is today. Just a very bright, good kid from the neighborhood.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/36 "2009-09-23T22:34:11Z")

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> [@MsRobyn](#):
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> I’ve always thought of Kirk Cameron as a supercilious little twerp. I didn’t find him all that attractive in _Growing Pains_; in fact, I wasn’t a fan of the show at all. Once I heard about his demands to dictate the content of the show after he found Jesus, I lost all respect for him and for the producers for putting up with it.

Not only that, but he got one of the semi-regular cast members fired because she did a playboy pictorial. He’s a class act, that one.

Watching that video rebuttal, she makes some excellent points (albeit a bit overdramatic):

How would Christians feel if people handed out bibles with a 50 page intro crapping all over it? How would they feel about handing out Korans in public schools?

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/37 "2009-09-23T22:45:48Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> Not only that, but he got one of the semi-regular cast members fired because she did a playboy pictorial. He’s a class act, that one.
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> Watching that video rebuttal, she makes some excellent points (albeit a bit overdramatic):
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> How would Christians feel if people handed out bibles with a 50 page intro crapping all over it? How would they feel about handing out Korans in public schools?

I am surprised that there isn’t an atheist group already handing out annotated Bibles with footnotes showing contradictions, inconsistencies, etc. I would buy one for my collection.

If you decide to hand out the Koran at a public school - go ahead. It opens the door for me to hand out Bibles since the State can’t choose a single religion and is supposed to be neutral about it all.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/38 "2009-09-23T22:56:58Z")

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> [@Algher](#):
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> I am surprised that there isn’t an atheist group already handing out annotated Bibles with footnotes showing contradictions, inconsistencies, etc. I would buy one for my collection.
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> If you decide to hand out the Koran at a public school - go ahead. It opens the door for me to hand out Bibles since the State can’t choose a single religion and is supposed to be neutral about it all.

The point was that if we allow bibles to be handed out then why not Korans? I doubt the religious right would have your liberal attitude.

I also think they (and their friends at Fox News) would throw a shit fit if annotated bibles were handed out at religious events.

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/39 "2009-09-23T23:04:55Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> The point was that if we allow bibles to be handed out then why not Korans? I doubt the religious right would have your liberal attitude.
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> I also think they (and their friends at Fox News) would throw a shit fit if annotated bibles were handed out at religious events.

Then say religious right and instead of painting all Christians with your brush.

There is little “liberal” about me - I simply have nothing to fear from annotated Bibles or the Koran. I own both, share it all with my kids, and welcome the debate.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-camerons-150th-anniversary-origin-of-species-expurgated-the-one-without-the-gannet/511147/40 "2009-09-23T23:42:39Z")

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> [@Algher](#):
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> Then say religious right and instead of painting all Christians with your brush.

Fair enough. Apologies for the poor generalization.

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