# Kirk vs Riker

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-vs-riker/204143>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 27, 2003, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-vs-riker/204143 "2003-09-27T09:04:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-vs-riker/204143/21 "2003-09-27T20:27:57Z")

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Note: The REAL contest would be Q vs. torn-shirt Kirk.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-vs-riker/204143/22 "2003-09-27T20:36:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gadfly \*  
> \*\*How is Picard at all a part of Kirk? \*\*

Well, Kirk **does** have to wear that toupee…

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**Author:** ![Mephisto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@Mephisto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mephisto)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-vs-riker/204143/23 "2003-09-27T20:40:52Z")

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Kirk could defeat Riker in . . . well, almost anything.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-vs-riker/204143/24 "2003-09-27T21:14:41Z")

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In ship-to-ship combat, Kirk defeats Riker, Captain Avatar of the _Argo/Yamato_, Darth Vader in a Star Destroyer, the entire Cylon Fleet, Commander Adama & the _Battlestar:Galactica_, and seduces a beautiful alien broad in heavy eye makeup.

In the first reel.

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**Author:** ![Grousser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Grousser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grousser)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2003, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-vs-riker/204143/25 "2003-09-27T22:56:26Z")

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I’ve always thought that producers of TNG have choosen Jonathan Frakes because his William Shatner style (handsome, masculine), but they never let him to be the captain because it was suspiciously similar to TOS. And Data followed the steps of Spock, being a know-it-all and solve-it-all.

I know this single comment is a little off-topic, but I didn’t want to open a new thread with it.

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