# Kirk was the best Star Trek Captain in my rankings - Please give your rankings **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 17, 2003, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933 "2003-03-17T04:52:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2003, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/61 "2003-03-19T05:37:08Z")
Who’s the black Starfleet Cap’ That helped redraw the UFP’s map? SISKO! Ya damn right! Who is the man that would risk his neck For his brother man? SISKO! Can you dig it? Who’s the cat that won’t cop out When there’s danger all about? SISKO! Right On! They say this cat Sisko is a bad mother SHUT YOUR MOUTH! I’m talkin’ 'bout Sisko. THEN WE CAN DIG IT! He’s a complicated man But no one understands him but his woman Ben Sisko! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2003, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/62 "2003-03-19T13:17:20Z")
MS Wildman did croak, did she not? ---
**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2003, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/63 "2003-03-19T14:53:14Z")
Heh - **Aesiron** , that was super funny. And, yes, as a matter of fact, I can most certainly dig it. Am I the only one who counted **Tars** ’ exclamation points? There were 41. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2003, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/64 "2003-03-19T18:45:52Z")
only 41!!! I’ll have to try harder!!! ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2003, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/65 "2003-03-19T21:44:25Z")
Thanks, **Kn\*ckers**. I know it isn’t cool to laugh at your own jokes but I was laughing like a hyena while posting that. 😃 I’m glad others found it just as funny. ---
**Author:** ![MsBatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@MsBatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsBatt)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/66 "2003-03-20T02:51:31Z")
Kirk, all the way! If Kirk hadn’t been Kirk, then we’d never have had any of the other series and captains. Kirk was the perfect Starship Captain for 1966, which is what really counts. Picard could have, and probably would have, made an even better captain than Kirk, had he had a REAL starship to captain. But a REAL starship doesn’t have children on it. He was crippled from the start by the writers’ desires to de-militarize things, and he just never got back on track. Sisco I rather liked, but I never watched much DS9. Janeway sucked. Archer…well, I really expected better things from Archer,and I have high hopes that the writers will get their act together before the show gets cancelled. First officers…Spock was THE First Officer, none of the rest of 'em count. T’Pol has potential, but I wish that actress could pull off a truly non-emotional Vulcan look, similar to Spock’s. Most of the time, she looks like she’s REALLY pissed off and holding it in badly. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/67 "2003-03-20T06:55:02Z")
I never got the “Leonard Nimoy’s Spock never showed emotion” thing. He always seemed like he was smiling to me. As much as I hate Tuvok, Tim Russ played a better Vulcan. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/68 "2003-03-20T07:21:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*only 41!!! I’ll have to try harder!!! \*\* * * * Approximately 184. :eek: My God. I truly need to get me a life. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/69 "2003-03-20T07:22:55Z")
**Aesiron** : That was outstanding! And I admit to laughing at my own Spotted Dick script. ---
**Author:** ![Pixelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ad7895/32.png) [@Pixelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixelle)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/70 "2003-03-20T13:55:04Z")
1. Janeway… weird that a lot of you see touchy-feeliness as a weakness! 2. Picard 3. Archer…haven’t seen enough to make a decision 4. Kirk ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/71 "2003-03-20T14:13:54Z")
Proud that you mention Admiral Janeway #1, but sad that you didn’t mention Sisko. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/72 "2003-03-20T21:26:46Z")
Touchy-feely’s fine. Bi-polar isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/73 "2003-03-21T02:33:30Z")
Nothing against touchy-feeliness. Janeway’s problem is that she was inconsistent. Sometimes she was very cautious, while other times she was reckless. It’s like she was making her decisions with a Magic 8-Ball. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/74 "2003-03-21T03:12:26Z")
**MsBatt** makes a good point about Picard. Patrick Stewart was handicapped by the premise of the show. The attempt to de-militarize Starfleet can be blamed on Gene Roddenberry, who became strongly pacifistic (and a little nutty) in his later years. This is why the Enterprise-D was an interstellar ocean liner with civilian spouses and kids running around all over the place. By the time TNG ended Roddy was dead, so we see the military aspects being played up in DS9, Voyager, and the Next Generation movies. (I don’t think that we’ve seen any kids on the Enterprise-E, have we?) ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933/75 "2003-03-21T04:44:21Z")
Well… Troi and Riker were _making_ kids… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-was-the-best-star-trek-captain-in-my-rankings-please-give-your-rankings/161933.md?page=3)