# Kiss my ass, RIAA **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 16, 2001, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiss-my-ass-riaa/87606 "2001-10-16T00:34:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiss-my-ass-riaa/87606/21 "2001-10-17T02:38:16Z")
I’m amazed that you guys are apparently more incensed by the new copy-protected CDs than by what RIAA just tried to squeeze into the Anti-Terrorism Bill. Just to remind everyone - What the RIAA just tried to do was sneak a rider into the anti-terrorism bill that would make it LEGAL for them to hack into any citizen’s computer, look for copywritten MP3 files, and destroy them. AND, they wanted to be held not liable for any collateral damage their hacks would cause. One of the things they are doing is launching Denial-of-Service attacks against private citizens who are part of peer-to-peer networks like Gnutella. They are writing applications that flood a client with a request to download hundreds of files, then slow down the transfer to a crawl so that it takes forever to download them, tying up the computer. And if you just happen to be someone transferring legal property with this service and they ‘accidentally’ shut you down, they don’t want you to have any recourse. Luckily, this didn’t make it through the scrutiny of Congress, but the sheer audacity and immorality of trying to sneak this through such an important bill, and one that was getting minimal scrutiny because of its immediate importance, borders on treason. As I said, this kind of shit, if it passed through congressional scrutiny, would have done more damage to public confidence in the government than any amount of Bin Laden propaganda. ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiss-my-ass-riaa/87606/22 "2001-10-17T02:52:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sam Stone \* > \*\*\ > Yeah, I know how you feel. I used think I was a vandal, but really I was just a lightweight. You know, smashing windows and stuff like that. I never got into the really cool stuff like torching cars. > \ > > Since this is the pit, and since I was one of the guys who had to try and make a living from a BBS while little assholes got their jollies trying to crash it, let me send a nice sincere FUCK YOU to anyone who thinks that’s a cool way to spend their time. > > You can call yourself a hacker, a cracker, or Mona Lisa for all I care, but if you spend your time trying to damage other people’s property, you’re nothing but a low-life vandal, no better than the punks who run around keying cars for yucks. So let’s not romanticise this, okay? \*\* Sorry, Sam, I should have made myself more clear. First of all, I hacked into a few computers, never really damaged anything, just explored a bit. I was young and stupid, wouldnt do it now, and it wasnt even illegal back then. As far as BBS’s go,the only ones I crashed were white supremest sites(because I have very little tolerance for such things). I know, I had no right to do so, but I have a hard time feeling guilty about it. I also crashed friends bbs’s(it was kinda of a game between people I knew, they did the same…They condsidered it a way to find holes in thier program), and there was a guy who I crashed who was screwed over a friend of mine really bad. I would never had just crashed a board just for the hell of it, and I certainly wouldnt crash one now for any reason. We do a lot of stupid things when we are young. ---
**Author:** ![RoboDude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bbe5ce/32.png) [@RoboDude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RoboDude)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiss-my-ass-riaa/87606/23 "2001-10-17T03:56:54Z")
> [@](#): > > One of the things they are doing is launching Denial-of-Service attacks against private citizens who are part of peer-to-peer networks like Gnutella. They are writing applications that flood a client with a request to download hundreds of files, then slow down the transfer to a crawl so that it takes forever to download them, tying up the computer. > > And if you just happen to be someone transferring legal property with this service and they ‘accidentally’ shut you down, they don’t want you to have any recourse. Doesn’t most peer-to-peer software allow you to block specific computers from downloading things from you or set limits as to how much can be downloaded at once? ---
**Author:** ![Hodge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Hodge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hodge)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiss-my-ass-riaa/87606/24 "2001-10-17T04:07:03Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Anthracite \* \*\* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by zuma \* > Me and the guy who brought it to my attention scanned the entire CD cover carefully. **There is no warning whatsoever on the outside that the CD is defective or different in any way, shape, or form.** Now…since most all stores prohibit return or exchange of opened CDs…what does he then do with it, if he bought it to play at work on his PC? \*\* Actually, it’s my understanding that these so-called CDs don’t conform to the Red Book Audio CD standard. As such, they are prohibited from displaying the “COMPACT DISC DIGITAL AUDIO” logo. If it’s not displayed anywhere on the cover, case or disc, then that’s a good indication of non-compliance. Also it’s important to note that many high-end audiophile CD players and automobile players have incorporated CD-ROM error correction technology. These too will be unable to play the corrupted CDs. ---
**Author:** ![Hodge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Hodge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hodge)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiss-my-ass-riaa/87606/25 "2001-10-17T04:08:48Z")
Oops! Sorry for screwing up my attributions there **Anthracite**. Hodge (who just did the same damn thing over in the pit) ---
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiss-my-ass-riaa/87606/26 "2001-10-17T06:10:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mouthbreather \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Legomancer \* > > \*\*I have gotten to the point where I’m considering pirating all my music and then sending a check for $15 to the artist. \*\* > > I’ve done this on more than one occasion. \*\* Who did you write the check to, and where did you send it? Was it cashed? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiss-my-ass-riaa/87606.md?page=1)