# Klobuchar drops out and endorses Biden. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 2, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808 "2020-03-02T18:47:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/1 "2020-03-02T18:47:42Z")
> **[Amy Klobuchar ends 2020 presidential campaign and endorses Joe Biden | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/politics/amy-klobuchar-ends-2020-campaign/index.html)** > > Sen. Amy Klobuchar ended her presidential bid on Monday and endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden for president. Looks like the establishment lane is getting behind Biden. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/2 "2020-03-02T18:49:18Z")
I prefer her (and Pete) to Biden, but I get it. Go Joe! ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/3 "2020-03-02T18:50:32Z")
Yup. Bernie is toast now. Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/4 "2020-03-02T18:52:39Z")
That’s good but the feather in the cap Biden needs is Bloomberg. Because the latter only joined the race because he thought Joe isn’t strong enough to get over the line. If the center is trying to unite someone needs to tell Bloomberg all he is doing now is being a spoiler, and therefore helping Sanders. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/5 "2020-03-02T18:56:29Z")
I had a feeling this morning that this was the second shoe about to drop. ---
**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/6 "2020-03-02T18:56:40Z")
That’s a shame. I very much doubt Biden will beat Trump. And if he does, I very much doubt he’ll even _try_ to implement any real change. Possible silver lining could be if he picks Pete to be his VP and then let’s Pete run in 2024. That might work. And Pete has a more progressive platform. But still, I doubt Biden stands a chance against Trump so it’s probably all academic anyway. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/7 "2020-03-02T18:58:57Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > That’s good but the feather in the cap Biden needs is Bloomberg. Because the latter only joined the race because he thought Joe isn’t strong enough to get over the line. If the center is trying to unite someone needs to tell Bloomberg all he is doing now is being a spoiler, and therefore helping Sanders. This. If Bloomberg stays in after Super Tuesday then I think Bernie ends up with the most pledged delegates. If Bloomberg drops out after Super Tuesday I can see Biden pulling ahead in the post Super Tuesday primaries. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/8 "2020-03-02T19:05:11Z")
> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#): > > That’s a shame. I very much doubt Biden will beat Trump. And if he does, \*\*I very much doubt he’ll even _try_ to implement any real change. > \*\* > Possible silver lining could be if he picks Pete to be his VP and then let’s Pete run in 2024. That might work. And Pete has a more progressive platform. But still, I doubt Biden stands a chance against Trump so it’s probably all academic anyway. This is interesting, and I plan on starting another thread on this topic once I have my thoughts more organized on it. From my viewpoint the only change we need is to go back to the way things were in the Obama days and then continue to make slow steady progress from there. Admittedly I did vote for Bernie (early voting in the Texas primary), but this was back when it looked like Bernie was on his way to the nomination. I only voted for him, as I previously noted, to help avoid a contested convention and the damage that would to to the efforts to oust Trump. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/9 "2020-03-02T19:05:35Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > This. If Bloomberg stays in after Super Tuesday then I think Bernie ends up with the most pledged delegates. If Bloomberg drops out after Super Tuesday I can see Biden pulling ahead in the post Super Tuesday primaries. Isn’t the outcome the same if all of Bloomberg’s delegates switch to Biden at the convention, and this is made clear to the public at the moment Bloomberg drops out of the race? Granted, Bloomberg’s exit ASAP may have other advantages, like getting his $$ behind Biden rather than himself sooner rather than later. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/10 "2020-03-02T19:07:35Z")
And the advantage for Bloomberg to getting out is that he won’t spend every debate being a punching bag. Let’s face it, there’s not many voters debating between Bernie and Biden. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/11 "2020-03-02T19:10:28Z")
> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#): > > That’s a shame. I very much doubt Biden will beat Trump. And if he does, I very much doubt he’ll even _try_ to implement any real change. > > Possible silver lining could be if he picks Pete to be his VP and then let’s Pete run in 2024. That might work. And Pete has a more progressive platform. But still, I doubt Biden stands a chance against Trump so it’s probably all academic anyway. If only we knew. People are circling the wagons around Biden because they (we?) don’t believe Bernie can beat Trump. That’s certainly the view in my network of friends and co-workers. “Real change” is a good thing, but 1) what we _really_ need to do is stop Trump and 2) Bernie advocates for real change but many of us don’t think he’d accomplish much. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/12 "2020-03-02T19:10:32Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Isn’t the outcome the same if all of Bloomberg’s delegates switch to Biden at the convention, and this is made clear to the public at the moment Bloomberg drops out of the race? > > Granted, Bloomberg’s exit ASAP may have other advantages, like getting his $$ behind Biden rather than himself sooner rather than later. Same outcome in terms of Biden getting the nomination. Different outcome in terms of whether or not Bernie comes out of the convention supporting Biden or being butt hurt and telling his supporters to take their ball and go home for the general election. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/13 "2020-03-02T19:12:23Z")
Bloomberg doesn’t count. He’s just hoping nobody notices he’s the New York City Republican in the room. Why anyone takes him seriously is a mystery to me. So we’re down to Bernie (who won’t get the nomination no matter how many votes he gets), Liz (who hasn’t been winning), and Joe. Dammit. I really don’t want Joe, but at least he might know how to reconstruct what’s left of the government if he can get it away from Il Dou’che. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/14 "2020-03-02T19:13:08Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > If only we knew. \*\*People are circling the wagons around Biden because they (we?) don’t believe Bernie can beat Trump. \*\* That’s certainly the view in my network of friends and co-workers. > > “Real change” is a good thing, but 1) what we _really_ need to do is stop Trump and 2) Bernie advocates for real change but many of us don’t think he’d accomplish much. I think there is also a significant contingent of people who believe that Bernie will beat Trump. Those folks are more afraid of what Sanders would do than they are of what Trump is doing. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/15 "2020-03-02T19:16:59Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > Bloomberg doesn’t count. He’s just hoping nobody notices he’s the New York City Republican in the room. Why anyone takes him seriously is a mystery to me. > So we’re down to Bernie (who won’t get the nomination no matter how many votes he gets), Liz (who hasn’t been winning), and Joe. > > Dammit. I really don’t want Joe, but at least he might know how to reconstruct what’s left of the government if he can get it away from Il Dou’che. What a shining example of democracy in action. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/16 "2020-03-02T19:18:05Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > I think there is also a significant contingent of people who believe that Bernie will beat Trump. Those folks are more afraid of what Sanders would do than they are of what Trump is doing. I haven’t heard that. Maybe they don’t say it out loud. (_Republicans_ are afraid of what Bernie might do if elected, but the Democrats I know would be okay moving in that direction.) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/17 "2020-03-02T19:22:38Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I haven’t heard that. Maybe they don’t say it out loud. (_Republicans_ are afraid of what Bernie might do if elected, but the Democrats I know would be okay moving in that direction.) As a Dem, I’m more afraid of Bernie (or Biden, for that matter) _failing_ to get anything done. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/18 "2020-03-02T19:23:59Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I haven’t heard that. Maybe they don’t say it out loud. (_Republicans_ are afraid of what Bernie might do if elected, but the Democrats I know would be okay moving in that direction.) This is admittedly my guess on the motives of the voters described in 538s article on the never Bernie portion of Biden’s supporters. > **[Voters Who’ll Support Biden — But Not Sanders — Probably Really Do Mean It](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/voters-wholl-support-biden-but-not-sanders-probably-really-do-mean-it/)** > > Joe Biden’s prospects for winning the Democratic nomination have waned after both the former vice president’s disappointing fourth and fifth place finishes in I… ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/19 "2020-03-02T19:27:29Z")
> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#): > > That’s a shame. I very much doubt Biden will beat Trump. And if he does, I very much doubt he’ll even _try_ to implement any real change. First things first; let’s get Trump out of office before we worry about implementing a progressive agenda. And besides that, you’ll have to have a pretty strong majority in both houses of Congress to actually implement a lot of the more radical stuff the Democratic party is pushing, and I don’t see that happening. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808/20 "2020-03-02T19:29:03Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > I think there is also a significant contingent of people who believe that Bernie will beat Trump. I find it interesting that there are significant contingents of people who believe very firmly that only Sanders or only Biden can win, but not the other. It’s almost becoming an article of faith. _Sanders is too far left for the greater American public, doesn’t have a strong enough appeal to blacks and once the Trump machine gets going on his socialist past, he’ll be toast - **Sanders can’t win!** _ _Biden is too uninspiring and a lackluster campaigner. His bland MOR platform will fail to energize the progressive base and Trump will run roughshod over him - **Biden can’t win!** _ Either of the above scenarios is possible of course. But Trump, despite his various advantages, is unusually vulnerable for an incumbent. This will likely be a close election no matter who runs and I think the Biden and Sanders partisans are getting a little too ahead of themselves in their certainty. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/klobuchar-drops-out-and-endorses-biden/848808.md?page=2)