# Knights Templar firebomb Potato Chips in Mexico, don't exist in Norway **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 30, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knights-templar-firebomb-potato-chips-in-mexico-dont-exist-in-norway/623558 "2012-05-30T17:06:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knights-templar-firebomb-potato-chips-in-mexico-dont-exist-in-norway/623558/1 "2012-05-30T17:06:32Z")
I suspect these are two different “Knights Templar” groups, and that neither one is fodder for Dan Brown thrillers: > **[Yahoo News: Latest and Breaking News, Headlines, Live Updates, and More](https://news.yahoo.com/)** > > The latest news and headlines from Yahoo News. Get breaking news stories and in-depth coverage with videos and photos. > [@](#): > > Chief investigator Kenneth Wilberg said police were sure of their findings and that they found no evidence of a right-wing Knights Templar network with aims to deport Muslims from Europe. Breivik had claimed to belong to the alleged network. [http://news.yahoo.com/drug-cartel-barbecues-u-owned-potato-chip-company-170641683--abc-news-topstories.html](http://news.yahoo.com/drug-cartel-barbecues-u-owned-potato-chip-company-170641683--abc-news-topstories.html) > [@](#): > > Mexican authorities arrested four alleged members of the Knights Templar drug cartel after a series of firebomb attacks on a potato-chip company owned by the U.S. food company PepsiCo, the first attack on an American multinational firm in Mexico’s ongoing drug war. > **[Knights Templar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar)** > > The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon, mainly known as the Knights Templar, was a military order of the Catholic faith, and one of the most important military orders in Western Christianity. They were founded in 1118 to defend pilgrims on their way to Jerusalem, with their headquarters located there on the Temple Mount, and existed for nearly two centuries during the Middle Ages. > Officially endorsed by the Catholic Church by such decrees as the papal bull Omne datum... > **[Knights Templar Cartel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar_Cartel)** > > The Knights Templar Cartel (Spanish: Los Caballeros Templarios, .mw-parser-output .IPA-label-small{font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .references .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .infobox .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .navbox .IPA-label-small{font-size:100%}pronounced \[los kaβaˈʝeɾos temˈplarjos\]) was a Mexican criminal organization originally composed of the remnants of La Familia Michoacana drug cartel based in the Mexican State of Michoacán. > The Knights Templar Cartel used to indoctrina... ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knights-templar-firebomb-potato-chips-in-mexico-dont-exist-in-norway/623558/2 "2012-05-30T17:09:13Z")
I bet none of them have even _been_ to Jerusalem. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knights-templar-firebomb-potato-chips-in-mexico-dont-exist-in-norway/623558/3 "2012-05-30T17:09:54Z")
Are potato chips somehow heathen? Did the pope declare a crusade against salty snacks? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knights-templar-firebomb-potato-chips-in-mexico-dont-exist-in-norway/623558/4 "2012-05-30T17:51:18Z")
My first thought when seeing the thread title was that it was some sort of incredibly obscure mnemonic device. ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knights-templar-firebomb-potato-chips-in-mexico-dont-exist-in-norway/623558/5 "2012-05-30T17:54:10Z")
“Drug Cartel Barbecues U.S.-Owned Potato Chip Company” - I wonder if the VPs at PepsiCo found that headline entertaining as entertaining as I do. There is something totally funny about a startup cartel trying to make it’s name by firebombing a bunch of bright yellow trucks bearing smiley faces and the phrase “You can’t eat just one.” Add to that, the fact that that plant was probably relocated down there to take advantage of lower costs… then instead, their fleet gets taken out by a start-up convinced that their trucks are spying on them… Makes me think of that old Cheech and Chong movie. ---
**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knights-templar-firebomb-potato-chips-in-mexico-dont-exist-in-norway/623558/6 "2012-05-30T18:00:48Z")
Well I’ve always said that Sabritas were the bomb! ---
**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knights-templar-firebomb-potato-chips-in-mexico-dont-exist-in-norway/623558/7 "2012-05-30T19:07:30Z")
> [@Enkel](#): > > \There is something totally funny about a startup cartel trying to make it’s name by firebombing a bunch of bright yellow trucks bearing smiley faces and the phrase “You can’t eat just one.” Well, they’re an offshoot of an existing/fading cartel: La Familia Michoacana. > [@Enkel](#): > > Add to that, the fact that that plant was probably relocated down there to take advantage of lower costs… \ They’re selling snack chips to the Mexican market. That’s why they’re made in Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knights-templar-firebomb-potato-chips-in-mexico-dont-exist-in-norway/623558/8 "2012-05-30T19:19:17Z")
> [@Enkel](#): > > "There is something totally funny about a startup cartel trying to make it’s name by firebombing a bunch of bright yellow trucks bearing smiley faces and the phrase “You can’t eat just one.” Their original slogan was, “First One’s Free, Kid.” ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knights-templar-firebomb-potato-chips-in-mexico-dont-exist-in-norway/623558/9 "2012-05-30T22:44:45Z")
Having the name doesnt make one a part of the organization. My daughter played on a ball team named the Dodgers. She didnt play at Chavez Ravine. ---
**Author:** ![flodnak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@flodnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flodnak)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knights-templar-firebomb-potato-chips-in-mexico-dont-exist-in-norway/623558/10 "2012-05-31T09:19:07Z")
What the police here have been saying for months now is that the organization that Breivik claims to lead does not exist in any meaningful sense. He might for all they know have a couple email penpals that call themselves the Knights Templar and convince themselves they’re going to do really big exciting things someday, but his claim that there are two “sleeper cells” ready to attack in the next year and three months is simply not supported by any evidence. (On the day of the attack, he claimed that the first cell had set off the bomb in Oslo, he was the second cell, and there was a third cell somewhere which was ready to start a third attack. So he has changed this story at least once.) Similarly, there may be one or two or ten thousand other organizations out there calling themselves the Knights Templar. They have no connection to the organization Breivik keeps talking about. His Knights Templar is either a) an outright lie, 2) an exaggeration of the facts, or iii) a delusion. No one who isn’t inside his peculiar mind can say for sure, but the court’s psychiatric experts are supposed to figure out if it’s the last one or not.