# Know who I wish would check into the poshest Retirement Lodge in Elderabuse, Arizona? John McCain... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/know-who-i-wish-would-check-into-the-poshest-retirement-lodge-in-elderabuse-arizona-john-mccain/541193 "2010-05-29T15:55:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/know-who-i-wish-would-check-into-the-poshest-retirement-lodge-in-elderabuse-arizona-john-mccain/541193/21 "2010-05-30T02:56:54Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Read it again. _The President, the Defense Secretary and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs_ have to **certify that it won’t affect readiness**. I’m not sure how to ask the same thing for a third time, but I’ll try. Your cite indicates that a Pentagon study will be done. But it doesn’t say that the Pentagon study must make a finding regarding whether DADT repeal affects readiness. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/know-who-i-wish-would-check-into-the-poshest-retirement-lodge-in-elderabuse-arizona-john-mccain/541193/22 "2010-05-30T03:14:25Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I’m not sure how to ask the same thing for a third time, but I’ll try. Your cite indicates that a Pentagon study will be done. But it doesn’t say that the Pentagon study must make a finding regarding whether DADT repeal affects readiness. You are a fucking idiot. THE PRESIDENT, THE DEFENSE SECRETARY, AND THE CHIEF OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF MUST ALL CERTIFY THAT IT DOESN’T AFFECT READINESS OR IT DOESN’T BECOME LAW. Is that clear enough, COUNSELOR? Gotta wonder about a “lawyer” who can’t read a fucking law and understand it. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/know-who-i-wish-would-check-into-the-poshest-retirement-lodge-in-elderabuse-arizona-john-mccain/541193/23 "2010-05-30T03:26:48Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I’m not sure how to ask the same thing for a third time, but I’ll try. Your cite indicates that a Pentagon study will be done. But it doesn’t say that the Pentagon study must make a finding regarding whether DADT repeal affects readiness. I think I see what you’re missing, here is another cite: From: [http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/05/white-house-supports-dont-askdont-tell-repeal-with-compromise-timeline.html](http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/05/white-house-supports-dont-askdont-tell-repeal-with-compromise-timeline.html) > [@](#): > > The amendment states that the repeal won’t take place until after: > > • the Pentagon’s Comprehensive Review Working Group finishes its study on implementing the change; > > • the President, Secretary of Defense, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff send Congress a written certification signed by all three of them stating that they’ve all considered the recommendations, the Pentagon has prepared the necessary policies and regulations to implement it, and that the new policy is “consistent with the standards of military readiness, military effectiveness, unit cohesion, and recruiting and retention of the Armed Forces.” Is this more clear? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/know-who-i-wish-would-check-into-the-poshest-retirement-lodge-in-elderabuse-arizona-john-mccain/541193/24 "2010-05-30T04:14:47Z")
You had me at **Wasilla Kraken**. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/know-who-i-wish-would-check-into-the-poshest-retirement-lodge-in-elderabuse-arizona-john-mccain/541193/25 "2010-05-30T12:54:26Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I think I see what you’re missing, here is another cite: > > From: [http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/05/white-house-supports-dont-askdont-tell-repeal-with-compromise-timeline.html](http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/05/white-house-supports-dont-askdont-tell-repeal-with-compromise-timeline.html) > Is this more clear? Yes, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/know-who-i-wish-would-check-into-the-poshest-retirement-lodge-in-elderabuse-arizona-john-mccain/541193/26 "2010-05-31T12:54:49Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > I think it’s time for a mandatory retirement age across the federal gummint, including the supreme court. Maybe 70 or 75. > > Both senators from Hawaii are 85 and both from Utah are 76, for chrissakes. The Republican voters in Utah are working on the problem: [Utah Senator Bennett Loses Republican Party Renomination Bid](http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-09/utah-senator-bennett-loses-republican-party-renomination-bid.html). Hmm - at age 76, and having served three Senate terms, he’s only the [“junior” Senator](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Bennett_(politician)) from Utah. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/know-who-i-wish-would-check-into-the-poshest-retirement-lodge-in-elderabuse-arizona-john-mccain/541193/27 "2010-05-31T16:31:43Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Hmm - at age 76, and having served three Senate terms, he’s only the [“junior” Senator](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Bennett_(politician)) from Utah. Well, the other one is Hatchasaurus rex, whose birth in the shadows of the dawn of time was unwitnessed by man. It should be noted that repeal of DADT does not automatically allow homosexuals to serve in the military. All it does is push things back to the pre-1993 status quo, where the bar to service was an executive/military policy rather than statute. If the repeal goes through, the ball moves back into the President’s/Pentagon’s court, and some of us don’t really have the most optimistic view of what happens next, given the behind-the-scenes maneuvering that’s been going on. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/know-who-i-wish-would-check-into-the-poshest-retirement-lodge-in-elderabuse-arizona-john-mccain/541193/28 "2010-05-31T17:35:30Z")
A hijack, and a show-offy one at that, but something I noticed this Memorial Day IRT DADT: Prominent among the music played on Memorial Day is \*\*Samuel Barber’s \*\*_Adagio for Strings_, by dint of its use in Oliver Stone’s _Platoon_. Barber himself had served in the army air force in WWII, when national defense overrode the level of scrutiny we somehow feel the need to now impose during the War on Terrorism. “Now Private Barber, we aren’t asking any specific questions about your private life. DoD guidelines prohibit this. What we do need to know is why the repeated three-note theme evoking rocking chairs in your _Knoxville: Summer of 1915_ is almost identical to the same three-note repetition in your barracks-mate’s, Private Menotti’s, _Sebastian_. This similarity pretty much waives both of your rights of 'don’t tell,” doesn’t it, private?" Next topic: what was really going on in Betsy Ross’ sewing circle? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/know-who-i-wish-would-check-into-the-poshest-retirement-lodge-in-elderabuse-arizona-john-mccain/541193/29 "2010-06-01T05:20:35Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > Prominent among the music played on Memorial Day is \*\*Samuel Barber’s \*\*_Adagio for Strings_, by dint of its use in Oliver Stone’s _Platoon_. Barber himself had served in the army air force in WWII, when national defense overrode the level of scrutiny we somehow feel the need to now impose during the War on Terrorism. Also played by the BBC Orchestra [four days after 9-11](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRMz8fKkG2g) as a tribute to those who died. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/know-who-i-wish-would-check-into-the-poshest-retirement-lodge-in-elderabuse-arizona-john-mccain/541193/30 "2010-06-01T13:22:50Z")
I finally see it. John McCain is Al Davis minus the tracksuit. > [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > You had me at **Wasilla Kraken**. Me too… and you always will. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/know-who-i-wish-would-check-into-the-poshest-retirement-lodge-in-elderabuse-arizona-john-mccain/541193/31 "2010-06-01T13:39:58Z")
Hijack: > [@Sampiro](#): > > Also played by the BBC Orchestra [four days after 9-11](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRMz8fKkG2g) as a tribute to those who died. I was there! Also, I am amused that one of the “video responses” is called “Was 9/11 Orchestrated?” Well, only for strings… Back on topic - perhaps we should just periodically let off unexpected loud bangs in the Senate. That ought to clear out the ones with bad hearts… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/know-who-i-wish-would-check-into-the-poshest-retirement-lodge-in-elderabuse-arizona-john-mccain/541193.md?page=1)