# Knowing when to shut up

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 28, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969 "2019-09-28T22:44:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/41 "2019-09-29T15:02:10Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> With any luck, when his pedo-tour of Southeast Asia is over, he’ll be too stupid to use a VPN and SL can get banned all over again.

Pedo insults are trashy, and I’m not on a “tour” of anything. I’m working in the region.

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/42 "2019-09-29T15:05:19Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Oh, get bent. You wouldn’t know a fact if it stuck its dick in your ear and fuck-started your brain.

I’m guessing you’re on the upside of 50 years old, aren’t ya. You’ve used this same rehearsed line on my awesome self several times now and clearly are too fucking dumb to remember doing it.

AND you had to edit the shit because you fucked up 2 simple sentences.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/43 "2019-09-29T15:10:10Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Oh, get bent. You wouldn’t know a fact if it stuck its dick in your ear and fuck-started your brain.

I will have to remember this little gem the next time I feel like insulting someone.

In the meantime, I think we need to get annoyed to a nearby trauma center so he can be treated for third degree sick burn. Hope he’s got insurance.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/44 "2019-09-29T15:11:15Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> I’m guessing you’re on the upside of 50 years old, aren’t ya. You’ve used this same rehearsed line on my awesome self several times now and clearly are too fucking dumb to remember doing it.
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> AND you had to edit the shit because you fucked up 2 simple sentences.

Yeah, but I cackled, and that counts for something.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/45 "2019-09-29T15:12:03Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Oh, get bent. You wouldn’t know a fact if it stuck its dick in your ear and fuck-started your brain.

If only it COULD be started…

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/46 "2019-09-29T15:14:42Z")

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Number of times anyone Muslim knocked on my door trying to get me to accept whatever as my savior: Zero.  
Number of times anyone Jewish yadda yadda yadda: Zero.  
Hindu: Zero  
Oh, cutting to the chase…  
Any religion other than Christian: Zero

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/47 "2019-09-29T15:17:36Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Oh I have very little doubt and I know I’m right (and you do too) that most of the Christian haters in this thread (you included) would prostrate themselves at the feet of the first Muslim who wanted to talk about the Koran and Islam, but would feign aggression (because pussies) at a Christian who wanted to talk about the Bible.
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> This is a fact.

No, what you have expressed above is pretty much a textbook example of an opinion.

Kudos to the several posters who have responded to _Annoyed_ without rising to his rather obvious bait.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/48 "2019-09-29T15:33:20Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> I’m guessing you’re on the upside of 50 years old, aren’t ya. You’ve used this same rehearsed line on my awesome self several times now and clearly are too fucking dumb to remember doing it.
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> AND you had to edit the shit because you fucked up 2 simple sentences.

No, I remember quite clearly. It’s a fitting response worth repeating. And you don’t merit any more effort than that. Get used to its familiar refrain.

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/49 "2019-09-29T15:34:01Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Oh I have very little doubt and I know I’m right (and you do too) that most of the Christian haters in this thread (you included) would prostrate themselves at the feet of the first Muslim who wanted to talk about the Koran and Islam, but would feign aggression (because pussies) at a Christian who wanted to talk about the Bible.
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> This is a fact.

You don’t know a goddamn thing about me, or anyone else here, so don’t pretend that you do. And saying “This is a fact,” doesn’t make it a fact. Again, my reaction would have been the same no matter what fucking religion they were.

If this was YouTube, I’d have a few more things to say to you, but I don’t want to get banned. But my attitude towards that christard bitch? That goes double for you.

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/50 "2019-09-29T15:38:07Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I have a sign on the mailbox next to the front door that says “No Solicitors”. Every once in a while, a member of the god squad will knock. When I point to the sign, the response is often “Oh, I’m not selling anything.”

You weren’t specific enough.

“No solicitors. This includes religitards, political canvassers, and pollsters.”

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/51 "2019-09-29T15:40:39Z")

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> [@atimnie](#):
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> You don’t know a goddamn thing about me, or anyone else here, so don’t pretend that you do. And saying “This is a fact,” doesn’t make it a fact. Again, my reaction would have been the same no matter what fucking religion they were.
> 
> If this was YouTube, I’d have a few more things to say to you, but I don’t want to get banned. But my attitude towards that christard bitch? That goes double for you.

Right back at ya.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/52 "2019-09-29T15:44:58Z")

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> [@atimnie](#):
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> …  
> If this was YouTube, I’d have a few more things to say to you, but I don’t want to get banned. But my attitude towards that christard bitch? That goes double for you.

Welcome to the board, and to the Pit. Read the rules about Pit language, you can say lots and lots here. (In THIS place, the pit. Elsewhere on the board, be more diplomatic)

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/53 "2019-09-29T15:45:56Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> I’m positive you wouldn’t say those things to anyone unless you were protected by your online anonymity.

Bitch, stop saying that. You don’t know shit about any of us, and your insistence that you do makes you as stupid and stubborn as that pamphlet pushing bitch. Talk about not knowing when to shut up. For the third, and goddamn fucking last time, my attitude would have been the same, and you can’t say that it wouldn’t be.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/54 "2019-09-29T15:48:46Z")

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> [@atimnie](#):
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> You don’t know a goddamn thing about me, or anyone else here, so don’t pretend that you do. And saying “This is a fact,” doesn’t make it a fact. Again, my reaction would have been the same no matter what fucking religion they were.
> 
> If this was YouTube, I’d have a few more things to say to you, but I don’t want to get banned. But my attitude towards that christard bitch? That goes double for you.

It’s just trying to get a rise out of someone, for its own amusement. Really, don’t even bother.

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/55 "2019-09-29T15:54:17Z")

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He should change his name to annoying, fits better. And I suspect he’s as atheist as Trump is smart.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/56 "2019-09-29T16:08:41Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> I’m an atheist, but respect all religions (unless they want to explode themselves near people) and I’m positive you wouldn’t say those things to anyone unless you were protected by your online anonymity.

Hah, you obviously don’t know me. I’m _nicer_ here, and often much more confrontational in real life. There’s moderators around, and this stuff is preserved for at least decades.

I’ve not only said those things to people in real life, I’ve told someone who’s being pushy about whether I should observe something about their religion, “I’m required to be respectful of your religion, I am not required to pretend it is real.” I’ve also told a religious friend “I see religious books like I do comic books. You can learn a lot about people from them, but they’re just stories written by men.”

I’m none to proud of some of the _other_ things I’ve said in an argument in real life. It may be true, but it’s sometimes just cruel to say it. So when you find something I write on this board offensive, know that it’s the polite version of it, which I’m happy to have preserved forever if this place lasts that long.

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/57 "2019-09-29T16:12:52Z")

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I don’t believe any of the above post.

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/58 "2019-09-29T16:14:02Z")

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> [@atimnie](#):
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> Bitch, stop saying that. You don’t know shit about any of us, and your insistence that you do makes you as stupid and stubborn as that pamphlet pushing bitch. Talk about not knowing when to shut up. For the third, and goddamn fucking last time, my attitude would have been the same, and you can’t say that it wouldn’t be.

I take it you’re a female?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/59 "2019-09-29T16:15:45Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I will have to remember this little gem the next time I feel like insulting someone.
> 
> In the meantime, I think we need to get annoyed to a nearby trauma center so he can be treated for third degree sick burn. Hope he’s got insurance.

He’s just another fucking troll who has hijacked yet another thread. Ignore the twat.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/60 "2019-09-29T16:18:20Z")

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FWIW, if you are in a public place, like a market, in Israel, there will be groups of Lubavitchers, who will be stopping all the men (well, all the ones who are not obviously part of some Christian tour group), and saying “Did you pray today?” If you say “No,” they say “Will you pray with us?” if you say “Yes,” they ask if you wore t’fillin. The ultimate goal it to get you into t’fillin, and pray mincha or ma’ariv, or something with them.

They target tourists, so they are not trying to recruit for their home synagogue, but if they can get your name and address, they’ll, send it to the people in your area (and they are everywhere-- there was a group in San Jose, Costa Rica). Really, their main goal is to get men to pray with t’fillin. I mean, they’re yippee-skippy, if they can get a name for a home synagogue, but they really do just hope they can get someone to think “Hey, maybe while I’m here in the market in the Holy Land, I’ll buy some t’fillin.” Even if it’s just a souvenir now, maybe next year, you’ll start praying with it.

I’m not saying that they’re in anyway “better” then Christian missionaries, because they target only Jews, or because their goals are simpler. They can be just as annoying as any Mormon. I’m just saying that “Yeah, Jews do it too,” but under very specific circumstances, in a very specific place, to a very specific purpose, and they don’t cast such a wide net, either.

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