# Knowing when to shut up **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 28, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969 "2019-09-28T22:44:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/61 "2019-09-29T16:19:56Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > When people get uppity about bible thumpers, I wish I could be a fly on the wall during an interaction of the same quality featuring a different religion. I’d just like to know if the reaction is equal and proportionate or not. I’d wager a months salary it wouldn’t be. Yeah, I wish you were a fly on the wall, too. Then I could just swat your worthless troll ass instead of waiting for the Mods to finally lose their patience. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/62 "2019-09-29T16:21:46Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > I don’t believe any of the above post. Right now the amount of people that give a flying fuck about what you believe can be counted on the fingers of one foot. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/63 "2019-09-29T16:30:26Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Yeah, I wish you were a fly on the wall, too. Then I could just swat your worthless troll ass instead of waiting for the Mods to finally lose their patience. You wouldn’t swat shit. Not now. Not ever. You’d run your mouth, get all red, and if you didn’t die of a stroke or heart attack, you’d huff yourself away cursing like a teenager who got his toy stolen by the school bully. So swim your ass back to the shallow end where you belong. ---
**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/64 "2019-09-29T16:37:57Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > I take it you’re a female? Wrong again, fucktard. See, this is what I was getting at before, you assume way too much. About me, about everyone else here. In the future, you should speak for yourself, admit that _you’re_ too much of a pussy to be confrontational with a muslim. Just because it’s true for you doesn’t mean it’s true for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/65 "2019-09-29T16:53:19Z")
This is at least the second time that Annoyed had asked someone “I take it you’re female?” I think that is his go-to insult. “Obviously you’re not _male_.” ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/66 "2019-09-29T17:09:42Z")
Gary Glitter is getting upset. He’s run through Mom’s burial fund (skip the casket and cremate her in cardboard box plz) and deportation looms. His sobbing and diaper filling will radically increase, rivalling even the insane output of his Orange Jesus. Stay tuned for another episode of _Whiny Little Punk Bitch Trolls the Dope_, right here on the BBQPit Network. ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/67 "2019-09-29T17:10:17Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > This is a fact. “Fact” doesn’t mean what you think it means. The same holds true for a not insignificant portion of the other words you use. None of those mean what you think they mean. Either that, or you do in fact know what they mean, in which case you are just a not-very-clever troll ---
**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/68 "2019-09-29T17:39:11Z")
Clever trolls are at least funny sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/69 "2019-09-29T17:39:14Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > I take it you’re a female? I take it that you’re an infection-saturated gash cap. That is a fact. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/70 "2019-09-29T17:46:15Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > Oh I have very little doubt and I know I’m right (and you do too) that most of the Christian haters in this thread (you included) would prostrate themselves at the feet of the first Muslim who wanted to talk about the Koran and Islam, but would feign aggression (because pussies) at a Christian who wanted to talk about the Bible. > > This is a fact. You confidence is as misplaced as an Easter Island synagogue. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/71 "2019-09-29T18:02:15Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > You wouldn’t swat shit. Not now. Not ever. You’d run your mouth, get all red, and if you didn’t die of a stroke or heart attack, you’d huff yourself away cursing like a teenager who got his toy stolen by the school bully. OMG! It’s like a cute, angry hamster! The more angry it gets the cuter it gets! Listen to the funny noises! Really, I’m laughing my ass off. What a lame-ass. Dude, this sort of thing might have started a flame was back in the 1990’s (assuming you even existed back then) but today you’re just ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/72 "2019-09-29T18:11:41Z")
I was going to reply to Annoyed, but it is a **confessed** troll (yes it is on record that it is here only to rile up liberals for fun) so there is no point. It would be like replying to a spam email message to give them a piece of your mind, or yelling at a robocaller who woke you up at 2AM with a credit card offer. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/73 "2019-09-29T18:32:42Z")
The problem is that evangelists aren’t like other sales people. With a normal sales person once they realize that you aren’t at all interested in their product they will realize that you aren’t the costumer they are looking for and so they should just quit wasting their time and move on to the next potential customer. With evangelicals, a person who isn’t interested in what they are selling is exactly the sort of lost soul who needs saving, and by persisting god will speak through them and you will hear the word of god and come to Jesus, because the only reason everyone isn’t a Christian is that they haven’t heard about it. ---
**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/74 "2019-09-29T19:05:18Z")
That’s the way this bitch opened. “Do you know who Jesus was?” Yes, you stupid cunt, I know who fucking Jesus was. Do you think I’m as stupid as you are? I didn’t say anything like that, right at that moment. It was only when the deluded bitch wouldn’t take a fucking hint and shut the fuck up that I shouted, FUCK YOU. By that time, I had said a few nasty things about her, her beliefs, religion in general, bitch kept pushing. As I said before, I have no problem with the casually religious, it’s only when they get in your face that they show themselves to be a self important asshole, rude, obnoxious, and totally oblivious to how rude and obnoxious they are. Their heads all full of god and Jesus, there’s no room left for common sense or decency. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/75 "2019-09-29T19:07:36Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > FWIW, if you are in a public place, like a market, in Israel, there will be groups of Lubavitchers, who will be stopping all the men (well, all the ones who are not obviously part of some Christian tour group), and saying “Did you pray today?” If you say “No,” they say “Will you pray with us?” if you say “Yes,” they ask if you wore t’fillin. The ultimate goal it to get you into t’fillin, and pray mincha or ma’ariv, or something with them. > > They target tourists, so they are not trying to recruit for their home synagogue, but if they can get your name and address, they’ll, send it to the people in your area (and they are everywhere-- there was a group in San Jose, Costa Rica). Really, their main goal is to get men to pray with t’fillin. I mean, they’re yippee-skippy, if they can get a name for a home synagogue, but they really do just hope they can get someone to think “Hey, maybe while I’m here in the market in the Holy Land, I’ll buy some t’fillin.” Even if it’s just a souvenir now, maybe next year, you’ll start praying with it. > > I’m not saying that they’re in anyway “better” then Christian missionaries, because they target only Jews, or because their goals are simpler. They can be just as annoying as any Mormon. I’m just saying that “Yeah, Jews do it too,” but under very specific circumstances, in a very specific place, to a very specific purpose, and they don’t cast such a wide net, either. Thanks for serious post in the thread, RivkahChaya. (Yes, everybody, I know we’re in the Pit.) Mostly I just tell proselytizers ‘No thanks. I consider religion to be a private matter’ and on the ones who show up at the door here (who are, yes, Christians; but that’s not much of a data point as a high percentage of the people around here are at least background-default Christian) that usually works pretty well. Occasionally, if I run into a really persistent proselytizer who won’t take no for an answer, I’ll argue back at them; but I try to avoid doing that, because it feels to me like returning rudeness for rudeness\*: while I don’t think they should be trying to convert me to their belief, I don’t think I should be trying to convert them away from theirs, either. \*I don’t think returning rudeness for rudeness is as bad as the initial rudeness; but I also think it’s often not helpful, though there are occasional exceptions. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/76 "2019-09-29T20:31:20Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > I don’t believe any of the above post. Well, I don’t believe you don’t believe it, sugar plum. Top that. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/77 "2019-09-29T22:21:24Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > Dubai is about as “Muslim” as Las Vegas is “Christian”. Well, since I lived in Abu Dhabi, perhaps you’d rather amend that statement? And mention it to the 3 mosques that were within 3 blocks of my townhouse there (Fridays were interesting, the Imans all preached via loudspeakers and I’d get several sermons (which didn’t affect me at all since I don’t speak Arabic… Nevertheless, even with those mosques about, never once did any Muslim (and I worked with many) try to ‘convert’ me or come to my door or drop off any literature. And I believe that is what the discussion is about. > [@Annoyed](#): > > Oh I have very little doubt and I know I’m right (and you do too) that most of the Christian haters in this thread (you included) would prostrate themselves at the feet of the first Muslim who wanted to talk about the Koran and Islam, but would feign aggression (because pussies) at a Christian who wanted to talk about the Bible. > > This is a fact. This fact is not in evidence. Would you care to provide some? ---
**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/78 "2019-09-29T23:01:04Z")
The facts are up his ass, do you really want to see them? ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/79 "2019-09-30T00:56:24Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Have you heard the Good News?! FLASH! BYZANTIUM BURNS! ‘News’ covers recent events. It gets stale after a couple millennia, uncorroborated. But you knew that. 🙂 > [@atimnie](#): > > “No solicitors. This includes religitards, political canvassers, and pollsters.” I’ve a nice rusty-iron cutout saying SOLICITORS WILL BE EATEN BY ZOMBIES. But since moving to a remote village two decades ago, our door has been reached maybe thrice. We earlier lived atop a steep hill they didn’t bother climbing. Thus, make it difficult for them. Pictures of Cthulhu may deter them, too. MY GOD ATE YOUR GOD, heh heh. I’ll confess, I don’t hate the religious, but I pity those needing invisible friends to justify their existence and opinions. I do feel free to detest their words and acts. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969/80 "2019-09-30T01:02:44Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > Well, since I lived in Abu Dhabi, perhaps you’d rather amend that statement? And mention it to the 3 mosques that were within 3 blocks of my townhouse there (Fridays were interesting, the Imans all preached via loudspeakers and I’d get several sermons (which didn’t affect me at all since I don’t speak Arabic… > > Nevertheless, even with those mosques about, never once did any Muslim (and I worked with many) try to ‘convert’ me or come to my door or drop off any literature. And I believe that is what the discussion is about. Statement still stands. UAE as a whole. Get back to me when you do time in Saudi, Iran, Iraq, Qatar, or any of the other staunchly Islamic countries that aren’t tourism-based, alcohol-serving, hooker-friendly locales and then you might have yourself an accurate interpretation of it all. They might not try to “convert” you, but you’d be lockstep with their Islamic whims, bet your bottom dollar. And not a single tough-guy in this entire forum would have the testicular fortitude to mock or blaspheme their god or religion. This is also a fact. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/knowing-when-to-shut-up/840969.md?page=5)