I’m not sure I’ll go as far as “scumbag,” but I agree her actions were not admirable.
Is there a constitutional issue here I’m missing? Or was this just a general comment?
- Rick
BullCaca. A lawyer must follow a judge’s orders or risk being held in contempt.
No, just a general comment about how I view lawyers. Not you though, you’re a stand up guy.
It’s so nice to see so many people here having already decided that there was a victim, and therefore a rape.
So far, all that exists is the accuser and the accused. It’s not ‘victim’ and ‘rapist’ until a jury decides beyond a reasonable doubt that it is.
As for Kobe’s lawyers bringing up this woman’s sexual history, they aren’t exactly going with the ‘she did everyone else in town’ defense. What they are attempting to do is to show an alternate possible cause for the injury to her vagina. I think it’s pretty damned important that if the accuser was out doing something else in the day before the alleged rape resulting in said bruising or tearing that the jury hear the facts of where those injuries came from. As the prosecution and defense do not agree on what the facts are, they both should present what facts they do know to the jury and allow the jury to do its job - make a finding of fact.
I don’t have much problem with the accuser’s name being made public. A rape accusation, even if completely unfounded, can totally destroy a person’s life. Once that picture and name is all over the television news, and in the newspaper, it doesn’t much matter what the outcome of the trial is. The community tends to associate the label ‘rapist’ with that face for a very long time. Look at how often people here drip bile over someone who in a news article is accused of rape or child molestation. Not convicted of, just accused. Either hide both names or neither, because right now an accuser has the power to ruin a life with impunity. And if you think false allegations against completely innocent men never happen, and never go to trial because no woman would ever ‘put herself through that’ unless it was true, give Gary Dotson a call.
Your post reads like there’s been a pile-on calling for Kobe’s lynching because he’s guilty. If anything, the opinion in this thread has gone the other way. You’re also twisting my statements in your sarcastically quote above. Just because I personally can’t imagine someone wanting to put themselves through what this woman is going through doesn’t mean that I think it’s impossible that someone would.
Amanita(love the name, BTW),
I don’t know whether catsixes post was directed at you or not. In fact, I’d say they were just airing an opinion. Too often lately I’ve seen these types of attitudes towards accused parties arising long before a trial is ever begun. Personally, it’s an affront to the US criminal justice system, as well as a sad sign of the times.
In the Pit, in the media, on TV, in the paper…those who are accused get raked over the coals months and years before a jury(who come from a poisoned juror pool), ever decides their fate. I see it every time something heinous occurs, or supposedly happens.
Look at Scott Peterson. He’s probably guilty as fuck, but he’d have to go to Chile to get a jury that wasn’t tainted-he’s already had 2 “Major Motion Pictures” released about his case and nobody knows shit about what happened.
So I don’t exactly think it was a personal affront to you, but rather someone airing their frustrations about the state of affairs with the criminal justice system…I know that’s how I took it because I am of the same opinion as catsix.
Sam
P.S.- I might be talking out my ass, so please correct me if I’m wrong, Catsix
Thanks, GaWd. I wasn’t personally affronted, but I wanted to make it clear that my correcting fallacies about rape and contending that Kobe Bryant’s attorney is an asshatress does not mean that I think he’s guilty.
Well said Gawd.