# Koch brother files brief in support of gay marriage **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 9, 2015, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/koch-brother-files-brief-in-support-of-gay-marriage/714595 "2015-03-09T13:06:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/koch-brother-files-brief-in-support-of-gay-marriage/714595/21 "2015-03-10T20:46:19Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > As part of _DeBoer v. Snyder_, David Koch, of Koch brothers fame, is filing a brief in his personal capcity in support of gay marriage. > > [http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/david-koch-gay-marriage-amicus-brief-115752.html](http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/david-koch-gay-marriage-amicus-brief-115752.html) > > Source where I first found out: > [Alabama Goes Rogue on Marriage | HuffPost Voices](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-baume/alabama-goes-rogue-on-mar_b_6829388.html) > > He also sponsored the dinosaur wing at Museum of Natural History. > > So that’s 0 for 2 on gay marriage and evolution. I have to imagine this pisses a lot of conservatives off, to know that even the guy pulling for them the most (at least by dollar count) still thinks their ideas are ridiculous. So, are you screaming bloody murder about THIS case of rich guys trying to spend money to influence politicians? ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/koch-brother-files-brief-in-support-of-gay-marriage/714595/22 "2015-03-10T20:49:35Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I understand every word in your sentences, even the acronyms. I’ll be damned if I can figure out what you’re trying to say. Meaning that it makes no sense to fund a party with millions of dollars if you disagree with some of the biggest reasons people actually vote for that party. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/koch-brother-files-brief-in-support-of-gay-marriage/714595/23 "2015-03-10T22:11:47Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > His rural Texan upbringing, I thought they grew up in Kansas. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/koch-brother-files-brief-in-support-of-gay-marriage/714595/24 "2015-03-10T22:35:07Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > Meaning that it makes no sense to fund a party with millions of dollars if you disagree with some of the biggest reasons people actually vote for that party. Since there is no viable libertarian party, the best way to get to one is to fund the one that’s more amenable to libertarian views. The Democratic Party places the interests of its wealthy donors above the interests of unions on environmental issues. The Kochs probably figure they can “enlighten” the GOP by similarly causing it to ignore the rubes in favor of what their more educated donors want. Such as liberalism on social issues. YOu also see this dynamic on immigration. The donor base wants a liberal immigration policy, the rubes want less immigration and more deportations. The “problem” with the GOP is that it listens more to its median voter than the Democrats do. ---
**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/koch-brother-files-brief-in-support-of-gay-marriage/714595/25 "2015-03-10T22:47:34Z")
Good. May I suggest they spend the entirety of their $900 million earmarked for the 2016 campaign on supporting this one issue? ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/koch-brother-files-brief-in-support-of-gay-marriage/714595/26 "2015-03-10T23:49:39Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I think the Koch’s think the crazy wing of the GOP is an obstacle to electing the business wing of the GOP to do their bidding. > > So the sooner the crazy wing gets deflated, one way or another, the sooner their plans for World Domination come to fruition. Hence these recent chess moves. > > The fact some lefties will become confused along the way is just a bonus. See posters above. See? I _knew_ it was all a nefarious plot by those evil Koch Brothers! ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/koch-brother-files-brief-in-support-of-gay-marriage/714595/27 "2015-03-11T00:21:40Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > I thought they grew up in Kansas. Hey, Dubya had a rural Texas upbringing in Connecticut. The GOP can export that kind of stuff these days, so anyone who they think will need credibility with t̶h̶e̶ ̶h̶e̶l̶p̶ the Real Americans can have it. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/koch-brother-files-brief-in-support-of-gay-marriage/714595/28 "2015-03-11T00:36:50Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Indeed, they both describe themselves as generally libertarian, so this shouldn’t really surprise anyone. The word “libertarian” has been so thoroughly co-opted by conservatives that it’s a shock to hear a self-described libertarian actually advocate libertarian ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/koch-brother-files-brief-in-support-of-gay-marriage/714595/29 "2015-03-11T18:06:16Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > So, are you screaming bloody murder about THIS case of rich guys trying to spend money to influence politicians? 2 things: 1. I’m not screaming bloody murder about anything. 2. Amici briefs are pretty ‘meh.’ ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/koch-brother-files-brief-in-support-of-gay-marriage/714595/30 "2015-03-11T22:50:11Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > Meaning that it makes no sense to fund a party with millions of dollars if you disagree with some of the biggest reasons people actually vote for that party. Ahh, thank you. I get you now. Actually it makes complete sense. Dollars don’t vote directly. The fatcats can control the legislature only \*after \*it gets elected, and only if the legislators that got elected aren’t actively opposed to fatcats. So the fatcat goal is to ensure fatcat-friendly, or at least fatcat-neutral legislators get elected. And they do that by funding the correct team. They don’t give a hoot in hell \*why \*the unwashed masses vote for their favorite party. All they care is that the unwashed masses actually do vote for their favorite party in numbers enough to win. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/koch-brother-files-brief-in-support-of-gay-marriage/714595.md?page=1)