# kozlyara **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 15, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kozlyara/762938 "2016-08-15T18:22:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kozlyara/762938/1 "2016-08-15T18:22:10Z")
козляра is the original. Any idea of what this means, SDMBers?😕 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kozlyara/762938/2 "2016-08-15T18:31:48Z")
What was the context? ---
**Author:** ![Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cornelius_Tuggerson)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kozlyara/762938/3 "2016-08-15T18:36:43Z")
If the speaker is Russian, its probably an insult. Roughly means “large goat”. However if the speaker is Ukrainian or Polish it could be something entirely different, but I can’t really speak to that. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kozlyara/762938/4 "2016-08-15T18:56:32Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What was the context? a one word message to me in a game. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kozlyara/762938/5 "2016-08-15T20:44:08Z")
The best I came up with was [this page](http://superdem.ru/2360-kozlyara-on-i-v-oon-kozlyara-churbanokozlyachkaya-federatsiya.html). But a translation doesn’t make the meaning any clearer. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kozlyara/762938/6 "2016-08-15T22:56:11Z")
It must be slang of recent origin, on the order of a political insult. Kozyol basically means billy goat. Kozlyata (a diminutive form?) means kids and kozlyatki is the affectionate diminutive of same, “kiddies.” That’s as far as the wise clerks of Oxenford know. [This page](http://superdem.ru/2360-kozlyara-on-i-v-oon-kozlyara-churbanokozlyachkaya-federatsiya.html) has someone hinting at the meaning in one of the comments: translation of the relevant passage came out: > [@](#): > > A for the future, to you the creature jerked on the bunk, in the chambers of one of Kiev jail, you know what it is kozlyara. Well if you read the Code of Criminal Procedure has started, you look and you will know soon what and shkonka, And on “concepts” wanker not zapadlop The anthropoid Baphomet picture **Little Nemo** linked to said something indistinct about the United Nations. Further I got nothin. ---
**Author:** ![Last\_Glacial\_Maximum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@Last\_Glacial\_Maximum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Last_Glacial_Maximum)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kozlyara/762938/7 "2016-08-16T20:54:29Z")
My Bulgarian friend said it is an unusual usage… In this particular context, he thinks it probably means “dumb like a goat herder”. Which btw, he said is better than being called a dumb goat. . ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kozlyara/762938/8 "2016-08-16T23:44:36Z")
> [@Last\_Glacial\_Maximum](#): > > My Bulgarian friend said it is an unusual usage… > In this particular context, he thinks it probably means “dumb like a goat herder”. > > Which btw, he said is better than being called a dumb goat. > > . Maybe later he’ll move up the ranks, to be “Strong, like bull! Smart, like tractor!” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kozlyara/762938/9 "2016-08-17T01:23:40Z")
Ok, there is a insult in russian, "starry perdune’ which means “old fart” but is much ruder. Can anyone give that to me in cyllric? ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kozlyara/762938/10 "2016-08-17T01:26:02Z")
старый пердун