# Kraft--\*The\* American Cheese" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 17, 2009, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621 "2009-12-17T07:45:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/81 "2009-12-17T20:41:45Z")
All I have to say about associating your country’s name with that type of “cheese” is HA HA! ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/82 "2009-12-17T20:47:20Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > It’s a stupid ad made by some idiot who probably spent less time creating it than you or I have spent arguing about it. The “idiot” who created it doesn’t seem so dumb since we’re all talking about it. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/83 "2009-12-17T22:01:56Z")
> [@Translucent\_Daydream](#): > > I second this. I don’t get a hankering for those plastiwrapped slices they sell in yet more plastic, but going to the deli and getting them to slice up some Kraft American in a decent thickness makes good grilled cheese fodder. It has more flavor that way. I could understand the WTFness about just eating it from the plastic wrap. The sliced shit from the deli is good stuff for sandwiches and the like. Kraft sells that exact same deli cheese sliced & pre-wrapped. ---
**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/84 "2009-12-17T22:06:15Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > When you peel the plastic wrapper off the Kraft’s slice, just be sure you throw away the right one. Which one that is depends on your taste. Dammit, thats been the problem the whole time 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/85 "2009-12-17T22:07:46Z")
> [@WarmNPrickly](#): > > You may be talking about the cheese singles in the plastic wrap, but that is not clear from your OP. In my experience American Cheese is processed cheese. It is a blended mixture of cheese and I’m not talking about the pre-wrapped slices. Kraft Deli Deluxe is a processed cheese, but it is quite tasty for me. That pre-wrapped single slice garbage is awful. > > Maybe there are other brands that sell non-processed American cheese. I would like to find those, because I do wish to find good American Cheese. I love American Cheese. I do not particularly care for cheddar except for special things. American Cheese (as opposed to Cheese Product) isn’t usually a blend of cheeses, or at least that isn’t why it’s the way it is. It’s cheddar that has been processed with water. It is often served sliced, right next to the Pasteurized Processed Cheese Product, or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/86 "2009-12-17T22:18:19Z")
I think we should take a little pride in the revolution America instigated in the re-purposing of what would otherwise have been factory run-off that would just get thrown away. Processed cheese has its place – some applications where its not actually being cheese comes in handy – and this opened up a whole new realm of treats, some of which are actually pretty good, and economical. Of course, processed cheese is often used beyond its optimal applications, but that too is economics – it’s cheap, because it’s made of industrial by-product. And in theory I’d love to be involved more. I’d love to be able to withstand using recycled paper, clothing fibers, ect. And I certainly feel better about my junk mail if it’s printed on rough, grainy paper that will, I hope, be recycled again when I throw it out. As the green movement has taught us, our disdain for re-purposing so-called-garbage is short-sighted and self-destructive. Yet, for most purposes, I just prefer to use actual cheese. As long as it’s made in Wisconson, of course. I let other people accept the burden of eating the cheezeoid. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/87 "2009-12-17T22:28:38Z")
> [@](#): > > I think we should take a little pride in the revolution America instigated in the re-purposing of what would otherwise have been factory run-off that would just get thrown away. Also known as “The Buffalo Wing Revolution”. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/88 "2009-12-17T23:10:32Z")
In their defense, Kraft does make one of the better “American cheese slices”. That style of cheese aint high society for sure, but it is edible and has a certain special flavor/style (kinda like fast food burgers, not REAL burgers in many ways, but edible with a special flavor). Most “American cheese slices” made by other companies are gag worthy in comparision IMO. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/89 "2009-12-17T23:39:29Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#): > > Kraft singles melted over Spam on Wonder bread. That’s what made this country great. Forgot the Miracle Whip. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/90 "2009-12-18T00:04:53Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > Forgot the Miracle Whip. Folks, we’ve uncovered the communist spy. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/91 "2009-12-18T01:01:24Z")
This talk about Kraft cheese made me remember a hilarious incident, years ago. My uncle owned a bar, and would put out a sandwich platter at noontime. The sandwiches were simple-usually ham and cheese. one day, he sent a guy out to buy cheese and make the sandwiches-the guy bought the individually wrapped slices, and forgot to unwrap them! the looks on the drunk’s faces, as they tried to eat those sandwiches was priceless! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/92 "2009-12-18T01:09:46Z")
> [@shiftless](#): > > Some of you are saying things like “extruded cheese slurry” like they are bad things. 😛 America became great on “extruded cheese like slurry product” and I’m damned proud to eat it. Remember that the French let their cheeses sit in caves until they grow mold and fungus and then they rarely, if ever, extrude the cheese before offering it to the public. Yet, somehow, the French seem to be proud of their mold covered cheese. Bravo > [@](#): > > I’m going to mildly agree with the OP about the commercial being annoying but judging a whole nation on one commercial is going too far and the special ire for the USof A suggests he has never seen one of the multitude of annoying commercials for annoying products made in other countries. QFT. With the addendum that the commercial is truly wretched. It pissed me off as much as Glen Beck. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/93 "2009-12-18T01:17:19Z")
Hit the wrong button earlier: > [@shiftless](#): > > Some of you are saying things like “extruded cheese slurry” like they are bad things. 😛 America became great on “extruded cheese like slurry product” and I’m damned proud to eat it. Remember that the French let their cheeses sit in caves until they grow mold and fungus and then they rarely, if ever, extrude the cheese before offering it to the public. Yet, somehow, the French seem to be proud of their mold covered cheese. Bravo. The sarcasm is wonderful. Velveeta and others of that ilk have their places. When making a cheese sauce, I usually have to use skim milk rather than cream. Because of this, there are too few fat molecules to make a good, smooth sauce using only Parmigiano-Reggiano and other harder cheeses. In fact the sauce is prone to seizing and is ruined. However, if you add a bit of Velveeta, the emulsifiers in it help make a smooth sauce. Since it is so bland, it doesn’t affect the flavor from the better cheeses. > [@](#): > > I’m going to mildly agree with the OP about the commercial being annoying but judging a whole nation on one commercial is going too far and the special ire for the USof A suggests he has never seen one of the multitude of annoying commercials for annoying products made in other countries. QFT. With the addendum that the commercial is truly wretched. It pissed me off as much as Glen Beck. ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/94 "2009-12-18T02:00:21Z")
This reminds me of a joke I heard (maybe Jon Stewart, but I am not sure) around the time of the start of the Iraq war, all that Francophobia was being whipped up by the Pubbies. In retaliation for the U.S. renaming French Fries as Freedom Fries, the French have announced that they will _not_ be renaming American Cheese. ---
**Author:** ![statsman1982](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/95 "2009-12-18T02:17:30Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > It’s an ad. For cheap cheese. Some advertising monkey read in his Dictionary of Ad Cliches that Americans like to buy products associated with America. So he made a mildly flag-waving ad for his shitty product. It’s not an expression of some fundamental new philosophy that is spreading through the country and destroying all that you hold dear. It’s a stupid ad made by some idiot who probably spent less time creating it than you or I have spent arguing about it. > > Getting your panties in a twist about it is what’s idiotic. I thought this was the SDMB, where people getting their panties in a twist about trivial things was one of the only pastimes we all could agree on. 😛 Seriously, after giving this much thought, my original hatred for this commercial ( **and others like it, for the poster who said I’m ignoring other egregious flag-waving commercials** ) has pretty much dissipated. Now I find myself wondering why the heck I even cared in the first place. All of you who called this a stupid idea are probably right. I guess there are issues even too trivial for the Dope:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/96 "2009-12-18T02:34:00Z")
Yeh, well… What about the SWISS! They NAMED there country after a cheese that is very popular in America! And then they shot holes in it with all the guns they have! ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/97 "2009-12-18T02:34:52Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > This Thread is Too Funny! I was only skimming, but now I have to read the thread. It better be funny, ralph. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/98 "2009-12-18T03:17:04Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > You can take my Kraft cheese singles, but you 'll take my Kraft macaroni and cheese when you pry it from my cold, empty pantry. And yes, I have tried real macaroni and cheese on multiple occasions. QFT. Aside from mac and cheese, Kraft products and their ilk have a small niche that they fill in my culinary world. Aside from the pleasant grilled cheese effect, there is also a mysterious and lovely chemical reaction when such things are emulsified with substances that are derivative of jalapeno. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/99 "2009-12-18T03:24:36Z")
> [@bannerrefugee](#): > > I can’t stand shitty cheese. But worse is American cultural chauvinism. The USA doesn’t have a monopoly on this kind of chauvinism-but it is certainly more tangible in the US than any other place I have been or lived. You seem to be saying that American cultural chauvinism expresses itself even within our expressions of American cultural chauvinism. Which may just be the most awesomely meta thing I’ve heard all day. Also, I’ve never heard of Ro-Tel before, but I’m now convinced that [this](http://dailypop.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/roman.jpg) is their CEO. ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kraft-the-american-cheese/521621/100 "2009-12-18T03:26:04Z")
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