# Kristi Noem hates America **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 21, 2021, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970 "2021-07-21T13:11:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Moreau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@Moreau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moreau)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/21 "2021-07-21T20:41:55Z")
As a native of South Dakota, she disturbs the shit out of me, especially the privately funded National Guard expedition to Texas but she gets a lot of support from Facebook friends back home. I am tempted to ask if it would be ok if George Soros did something similar but arguing with them is pointless. It is more a matter of identity than logic. > **[A privately funded National Guard deployment is legal, but is it ethical?](https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/06/30/a-privately-funded-national-guard-deployment-is-legal-but-is-it-ethical/)** > > A private donation will fund the deployment of 50 South Dakota guardsmen to south Texas. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/22 "2021-07-21T21:10:53Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I thought the article in the OP just had a bad picture but nope, she really does have the “Michele Bachmann crazy eyes” thing going. That’s exactly what I thought when I saw the picture. Hopefully she will have as much luck as Michele in her future political aspirations. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/23 "2021-07-21T22:41:16Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > We prayed in schools … and by the way in South Dakota I’m putting prayer back in our schools … We stood for the national anthem, we honored our flag, and we were proud of our history. That is not Joe Biden’s America. (Excerpt from Noem’s speech) How exactly did Biden go back to 1962, infiltrate the Supreme Court and force them to make forced prayer in schools unconstitutional? Does this woman have a brain tumor? Because it sounds like she does. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/24 "2021-07-21T23:19:39Z")
Kristi Lynn Noem, Born: November 30, 1971 So, it took South Dakota more than a decade to stop doing unConstitutional things? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/25 "2021-07-21T23:51:54Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Yes, but “This version” of America is the one we have, and it’s the one we’ve had for most of my life at this point. So, yeah, she hates America as it actually is, like it or not. You gotta love the America you have, not the America you wish you had. > [@carrps](#): > > Is a bun fight a fight with bread rolls? A fight to settle who’s the biggest ass? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/26 "2021-07-22T04:31:14Z")
She might think she’s going to be violating constitutional rights, er, putting prayer back in the public schools, but that’s not going to happen. Nor is any of her other illegal nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/27 "2021-07-22T08:23:01Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Is a bun fight a fight with bread rolls? Think more “sweet buns”, and a petty squabble over them at a tea party. > [@](#): > > 1. ([idiomatic](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#idiomatic)) A debate or disagreement, usually with several parties involved, often political in nature. quotations ▼ > 2. (chiefly [Britain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain), [slang](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#slang)) A [formal](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/formal) [tea party](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tea_party) or other [social](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/social) [gathering](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gathering), especially one at which food is served. The triviality of it is a key feature. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/28 "2021-07-23T02:25:59Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > To be fair, there’s a huge difference between “I hate America” (thread title) and “I hate _this version of_ America.” > > But Noem and many conservatives are doing performative patriotism and religion as usual. They don’t, and never, grasp that there’s a vast gap between imposing outside _external_ performance acts on someone (prayer, pledge of allegiance, etc) and that person actually being devout or patriotic _within_. To be equally fair, there is precious _little_ difference between “I hate America” and “I am a proud Republican.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/29 "2021-07-23T13:19:15Z")
I’m very much looking forward to the campaign ads that Democrats will run that are essentially just Kristi Noem saying over and over and over again “I hate this America!” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/30 "2021-07-23T13:23:41Z")
Pfff, they’ve been saying this since forever. Don’t look at what the republicans are saying…look at what they’re doing right now. Look at the laws they are passing. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/31 "2021-07-23T13:23:52Z")
Personally, I picture a “bun fight” as being between cute little rabbits. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/32 "2021-07-23T13:25:04Z")
The quiet part that hasn’t been yet said out loud (or loudly enough or often enough) is this: their America…has no place for the rest of us. And they have no problem getting us out of their way, one way or another. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/33 "2021-07-23T15:09:34Z")
I’m wondering who is going to bring a butter knife to a bun fight? ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/34 "2021-07-23T15:17:37Z")
You bring a bun. They bring a butter knife. You bring a croquembouche! Crack 'em in the mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/35 "2021-07-23T16:55:50Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Personally, I picture a “bun fight” as being between cute little rabbits. Read the ending battle in Watership Down. Ain’t no cute little bunny fight. Rabbits die. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/36 "2021-07-23T17:02:46Z")
Which is why Thlayli referred to his “Chief Rabbit”, not to his “Chief Bunny”. They’re only “buns” when they’re being cute about it. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/37 "2021-07-23T17:18:34Z")
To me, “bun fight” sounds like something you might get involved with at Lambert’s Cafe. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/38 "2021-07-23T17:23:33Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > They’re only “buns” when they’re being cute about it. Like [Bun-Bun](https://sluggy.com/)? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/39 "2021-07-23T17:25:53Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Read the ending battle in Watership Down. Ain’t no cute little bunny fight. Rabbits die. They sure do. > **[Dead Rabbits](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Rabbits)** > > The Dead Rabbits was the name of an Irish American criminal street gang active in Lower Manhattan in the 1830s to 1850s. The Dead Rabbits were so named after a dead rabbit was thrown into the center of the room during a gang meeting, prompting some members to treat this as an omen, withdraw, and form an independent gang. Their battle symbol was a dead rabbit on a pike. They often clashed with Nativist political groups who viewed Irish Catholics as a threatening and criminal subculture. T The orig... [![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9a/9b/ed/9a9bed2076c5f0450a2633c1f0d4afba.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9a/9b/ed/9a9bed2076c5f0450a2633c1f0d4afba.jpg) [https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SoreSilverBettong-max-1mb.gif](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SoreSilverBettong-max-1mb.gif) ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970/40 "2021-07-23T17:55:04Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > But it’s beyond repulsive that someone representing the party of Fox News accuses Biden of promoting “hate and division.” > [@Procrustus](#): > > In a hateful and divisive speech, no less. I mean, she literally says: “I hate this America.” Then says that by “this America” she means “Joe Biden’s America,” which is bad because it is built on “hate and division.” So her solution to an American built on hate and division is…wait for it…hate. 🤔 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kristi-noem-hates-america/946970.md?page=3)