# Kronos is hit with ransomware. Things are not good

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kronos-is-hit-with-ransomware-things-are-not-good/956241>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 17, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kronos-is-hit-with-ransomware-things-are-not-good/956241 "2021-12-17T20:40:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kronos-is-hit-with-ransomware-things-are-not-good/956241/21 "2021-12-18T13:51:21Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> He mentioned that something they’ve been seeing more and more of is ransomware that infects a system, but will lie dormant for weeks or months specifically to make sure it can quietly infect your back ups as well.

If so, then how is Kronos not getting that message out? That their backups are affected and then need weeks to safely rebuild their database. As it is now, the message is “You pay us to take care of your payroll needs. Because Molly clicked on an email link to see cat videos or Chad clicked the line to ‘Get bigg d!ck fa$t’, it’s now your problem Slappy because we don’t have even minimal IT contingency plans. ETA to when we can do our job? Somewhere between late January 2022 and who the F knows.”

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kronos-is-hit-with-ransomware-things-are-not-good/956241/22 "2021-12-18T13:57:18Z")

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> [@a6ka97](#):
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> My suggestion was to pay a standard 40 hour week and adjust from that. But what do I know?

Mrs Cad is salary but had to do a manual time card because they do track that you aren’t slacking. Luckily she is meticulous on recording her time but my thought if I were a manager then for that one week everyone salaried puts in 8-5 Mon-Fri for last week and if need be we can figure it out later. If hourly, hopefully there is a paper schedule posted in someone’s office we can use and adjust as need be. If no physical documents exist because it was all on the computer, then my condolences.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kronos-is-hit-with-ransomware-things-are-not-good/956241/23 "2021-12-18T15:40:10Z")

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In many states, “figuring it out later” may not be an option, legally.

Workers are owed that money and they deserve to get paid on time and in full.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kronos-is-hit-with-ransomware-things-are-not-good/956241/24 "2021-12-18T15:44:49Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> If Kronos doesn’t survive, no one I know will shed any tears: it is universally hated.

Why so? (I’m not at all familiar with it.)

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kronos-is-hit-with-ransomware-things-are-not-good/956241/25 "2021-12-18T17:08:55Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Workers are owed that money and they deserve to get paid on time and in full.

Notice I said that option was for salaried (exempt) employees. If they do any work during the week they get their full pay.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kronos-is-hit-with-ransomware-things-are-not-good/956241/26 "2021-12-18T17:27:01Z")

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Sure; I’m just more sensitive to the needs of the worker rather than the needs of the employer, usually.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kronos-is-hit-with-ransomware-things-are-not-good/956241/27 "2021-12-18T17:40:18Z")

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As am I, namely how employees had to reconstruct their workweek in order to get paid. My point is for some of them the company could have made it easier on them.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kronos-is-hit-with-ransomware-things-are-not-good/956241/28 "2022-03-30T18:06:45Z")

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Unbelievable but Kronos is **still** down and won’t be up until mid-April.

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**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kronos-is-hit-with-ransomware-things-are-not-good/956241/29 "2022-03-30T23:03:18Z")

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It’s been working again since January where I’m at.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kronos-is-hit-with-ransomware-things-are-not-good/956241/30 "2022-03-31T02:18:31Z")

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I wonder if only some features are up. This issue I know about is the PTO record is not available.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kronos-is-hit-with-ransomware-things-are-not-good/956241/31 "2024-04-16T18:54:07Z")

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Updates  
[$6M Lawsuit settlement](https://www.wsj.com/articles/payroll-services-provider-ukg-agrees-to-6-million-settlement-in-data-breach-lawsuit-8ea87f01)  
And other companies that were sued because they didn’t pay correctly due to the Kronos hack.  
[Cargill had to pay $2.4M](https://www.cybersecuritydive.com/news/cargill-kronos-ransomware-outage-settlement/702269/)  
[UMass Memorial $1.2M](https://www.hrdive.com/news/umass-memorial-health-kronos-ransomware-attack-settlement/692880/)

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