# Kucinich planning to file articles of impeachment on Cheney **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 18, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664 "2007-04-18T18:50:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/1 "2007-04-18T18:50:15Z")
Story [here.](http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/04/articles_of_impeachment_to_be.html) Of course it’s only a gesture that likely will never make it to a floor vote – but isn’t it encouraging that **somebody** is doing even that much? 🙂 Go, Dennis, GO!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/2 "2007-04-18T19:20:41Z")
How can he make a gesture if he has no strings? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/3 "2007-04-18T19:23:20Z")
Thats exactly what this country needs, more empty gestures. ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/4 "2007-04-18T19:27:18Z")
I want to see this measure stamped on hard by Congress. What the Democrats need to do is uphold their promise to **fix** what they think is wrong, not thrash around for 2 more years in masturbatory hearings and witch hunts. Besides, if you impeach Cheney, who’s going to make George’s mouth move? ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/5 "2007-04-18T20:42:37Z")
Do them Dems really want him replaced with a young, electable candidate come next election? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/6 "2007-04-18T20:50:51Z")
[QUOTE=lieu] Do them Dems really want him replaced with a young, electable candidate come next election? [/QUOTE] Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. If Bush were to be impeached first, Cheney would make Darth Vader look like Tinkerbell. ---
**Author:** ![A.R.Cane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@A.R.Cane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A.R.Cane)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/7 "2007-04-18T20:52:56Z")
I think it’s just a desperate ploy to draw attention to his candidacy. Hopefully it will be quashed quickly, it’s a stupid move. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/8 "2007-04-18T20:57:47Z")
[QUOTE=A.R. Cane] I think it’s just a desperate ploy to draw attention to his candidacy. [/QUOTE] He’s just a very optimistic guy. I remember that during the debates, when it was pointed out that the medical lobby was unassailable to change prices, he pleaded, “can’t you just _try?_” ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/9 "2007-04-18T21:03:44Z")
Yes, it is encouraging. If all the Democrats go with it (highly unlikely), that’ll be political seppuku. If they don’t, the extremists will be the only ones using the knife on themselves, and some moderates may be less likely to vote for Dems anyway. Win/win. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/10 "2007-04-18T21:27:12Z")
[QUOTE=lieu] Do them Dems really want him replaced with a young, electable candidate come next election? [/QUOTE] Do you really think being _Bush’s_ VP is an advantage for a candidate? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/11 "2007-04-18T21:41:16Z")
[QUOTE=lieu] Do them Dems really want him replaced with a young, electable candidate come next election? [/QUOTE] Whoever it was would, under the 25th Amendment, have to be confirmed by both houses of Congress. **This** Congress. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/12 "2007-04-18T22:21:50Z")
There goes any chance of actually getting something accomplished before 2009. The Dems don’t have a 2/3 majority. Cheney isn’t going anywhere. Personally, I hope they do spend the next year and a half in rancorous debate over this. It’ll make the Democrats look like vindictive obstructionists, and help the Pubbies in '08. The Democratic leadership knows this, which is why Nancy Pelosi and others have said that they aren’t going to try to impeach anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/13 "2007-04-18T23:39:09Z")
Moving thread from IMHO to MPSIMS. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/14 "2007-04-19T00:08:33Z")
Since we’ve changed venue, I feel free to mention that it occurs to me that if one could put Cheney and Kucinich in a bottle and shake them up, one would have an excellent President; a strong tough figure with compassion, or a kind and generous figure with balls. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/15 "2007-04-19T07:15:21Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. If Bush were to be impeached first, Cheney would make Darth Vader look like Tinkerbell. [/QUOTE] Oh yeah, like _that’s_ hard to do since Lucas foisted the prequels upon us! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/16 "2007-04-19T12:21:11Z")
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan] Oh yeah, like _that’s_ hard to do since Lucas foisted the prequels upon us! [/QUOTE] I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/17 "2007-04-19T15:35:04Z")
[QUOTE=scr4] Do you really think being _Bush’s_ VP is an advantage for a candidate? [/QUOTE] No, which is why no viable candidate is alligning themselves with him now. But, incumbency does have it’s rewards… exposure, prestige, an opportunity to showcase, etc. Look at it this way… the current VP is toast, a non-issue in the next election. Why change that dynamic? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/18 "2007-04-19T16:49:47Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Whoever it was would, under the 25th Amendment, have to be confirmed by both houses of Congress. **This** Congress. 😉 [/QUOTE] Anything happens to Cheney and Bush will appoint Condoleezza as VP (and she’ll almost certainly be confirmed) for no other reason then at least the history books will have _something_ nice to say about him. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/19 "2007-04-19T18:37:42Z")
[QUOTE=alphaboi867] Anything happens to Cheney and Bush will appoint Condoleezza as VP (and she’ll almost certainly be confirmed) for no other reason then at least the history books will have _something_ nice to say about him. [/QUOTE] [shrug] I could live with that just fine. No way is she gonna run in '08 anyway. ---
**Author:** ![A.R.Cane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@A.R.Cane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A.R.Cane)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664/20 "2007-04-19T19:10:54Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] [shrug] I could live with that just fine. No way is she gonna run in '08 anyway. [/QUOTE] After taking a close look at the current field of republican candidates, I wouldn’t put any money of the assumption that Condi won’t be putting her chapeau in the ring. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kucinich-planning-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-on-cheney/400664.md?page=2)