# Kudos for Gfactor regarding Carol Stream **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [November 29, 2009, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-gfactor-regarding-carol-stream/519328 "2009-11-29T14:00:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-gfactor-regarding-carol-stream/519328/121 "2009-12-08T19:48:12Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Well, obviously, I haven’t not made the popcorn yet – but when I don’t, I’ll definitely not think of you as someone I might not share it with. > > The Twizzlers are all mine, though. :eek: Kudos withdrawn. It appears that the non-offer of Twizzlers was not an act of grace, but of whim. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-gfactor-regarding-carol-stream/519328/122 "2009-12-08T20:55:46Z")
I certainly hope a lot of you feel really proud of yourselves, what a classy bunch you are. It? IT? Bunch of fucking eight year olds. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-gfactor-regarding-carol-stream/519328/123 "2009-12-08T21:07:14Z")
Yes. “It”. All Stream needs to do is state a preference\* because I’m not going to play the “If I’m a man, you’ve insulted me with THIS posting, but if I’m a woman, you’ve insulted me with THAT posting” game it likes to play. Just say “Please refer to me as a man (or woman–pick one)” and at least I personally will comply. PS–does this mean I get no kudos? ☹ \*At this point, I no longer care about it’s actual gender, just it’s pronoun preference. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-gfactor-regarding-carol-stream/519328/124 "2009-12-08T21:08:30Z")
At this point you no longer care because its a mod sanctioned pile on. Just admit it. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-gfactor-regarding-carol-stream/519328/125 "2009-12-08T21:11:23Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > At this point you no longer care because its a mod sanctioned pile on. Just admit it. It’s not **Fenris** ’s fault that English lacks a gender neutral third person pronoun that doesn’t carry strong overtones of objectification. Probably. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-gfactor-regarding-carol-stream/519328/126 "2009-12-08T21:19:33Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > At this point you no longer care because its a mod sanctioned pile on. Just admit it. Oooh! Attack of the rhetorical questions. Tell ya what. If you just admit that you’ve finally stopped beating your wife, I’ll consider responding. Seriously, why do you care? Carol doesn’t or it would state a preference.\* It just wants to go on playing the fence to double it’s chance of pretending to be offended. To simply state “Use a female pronoun to refer to me” wouldn’t reveal _anything_ about it’s actual, sooper-sekrit gender, but would put a stop to the “Man-hands is hate-speech!” type game it plays. \*Again, note that I’ve given up on it admitting what it’s true gender is. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-gfactor-regarding-carol-stream/519328/127 "2009-12-08T21:22:48Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > It’s not **Fenris** ’s fault that English lacks a gender neutral third person pronoun that doesn’t carry strong overtones of objectification. > > Probably. Actually, it is my fault. There was that one time when I had a bottle of 20 year old port and fell asleep in that one time mach…but I can say no more. I’m also responsible for “Holy Schnickies!”, “Gag me with a spoon” and (I really, _REALLY_ apologize for this one) the whole “I like Wendy’s hamburgers…NOT!” routine. :: hangs head in shame :: ---
**Author:** ![xash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c6cbf5/32.png) [@xash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xash)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-gfactor-regarding-carol-stream/519328/128 "2009-12-08T21:46:40Z")
I think this thread has jumped off the rails and over the snark. Bottom line: Kudos, **Gfactor**. Or not. This is closed. - **xash** Administrator ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-gfactor-regarding-carol-stream/519328/129 "2009-12-08T21:54:02Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > It’s not **Fenris** ’s fault that English lacks a gender neutral third person pronoun that doesn’t carry strong overtones of objectification. > > Probably. **Miller** , the word you’re looking for is a contraction of “he or she; it.” Just remove the "e"s and squish it together: h’orsh’it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-gfactor-regarding-carol-stream/519328.md?page=6)