# Kudos for Rand Rover-Out and Proud! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 9, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423 "2012-05-09T20:39:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/61 "2012-05-10T02:38:22Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > No. Y’all are engaged in some lousy analysis of the joke. > > Here’s the situation: Rand Rover made a shitty argument (namely, that being gay is different from being black because you can’t prove that someone is gay) and explained it in a ludicrous fashion (I’m gay. Prove I’m not.) > > The argument isn’t really worth being taken seriously, so people are making fun of him for his stupid argument instead of taking it seriously. > > That’s all. > > If you need to turn that into a lynch mob, you need help. Thanks for explaining why it’s totally cool to call a dude “gay” as an insult. I bet no one here was familiar with this line of thinking before. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/62 "2012-05-10T02:46:38Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > Whoppers are gay? It takes two hands to handle a Whopper. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/63 "2012-05-10T03:01:22Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > It takes two hands to handle a Whopper. But, that could apply to … wait… hmmmm. Yep, you’re right. Whoppers are gay. Now, if we could just figure out the sexual orientation of Butterfingers, I could sleep more easily. And, for the record, the worst chess opening (for white) is 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qc3 Bb4. Devastatingly ineffective. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/64 "2012-05-10T07:11:33Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Ever read Woody Allen’s story about the chess _patzer_, wood pusher, discovered a chess opening so incredibly stupid, so shockingly ignorant, that it deranged the mind. Chess masters confronted by it would dissolve into gibbering, weeping hysterics. Slight nitpick: wasn’t that Victor Contoski? ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/65 "2012-05-10T07:16:54Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > OK, we need some gay Dopers to visit **Rand Rover** and prove him wrong. Or to prove him right. Fun finding out, either way – volunteers? 🙂 It does sound fun! Except for the visiting Rand Rover part. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/66 "2012-05-10T07:22:13Z")
We could ask for volunteers. Though I think its pretty obvious that it can’t be anybody who bears a striking resemblance to George Clooney. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/67 "2012-05-10T09:32:00Z")
Y’all are _way_ overthinking this. Except for the person who characterized the OP as “He said he’s gay. Tee hee!”. That’s about as deep as this goes. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/68 "2012-05-10T09:35:56Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Y’all are _way_ overthinking this. Except for the person who characterized the OP as “He said he’s gay. Tee hee!”. That’s about as deep as this goes. I don’t see anyone overthinking anything here. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/69 "2012-05-10T09:42:45Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > I don’t see anyone overthinking anything here. Underthinking? ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/70 "2012-05-10T10:24:56Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Underthinking? Well, now that you mentOMG PIZZA! NOMNOMNOM ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/71 "2012-05-10T10:33:54Z")
> [@Sinaptics](#): > > What I really want to know if why we haven’t had an official response to the charge that Rand Rover raped and murdered a girl in 1990. He may be a little gay, but he’s not a raving Saget. > [@PlainJane](#): > > Snickering “he said he’s gay, tee hee!” as a dig and pretending you’re not is lame. It’s no different from [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmHC75FDqQ). ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/72 "2012-05-10T10:41:01Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > It’s no different from [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmHC75FDqQ). This thread was worth it just so I could be linked to this. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/73 "2012-05-10T14:20:36Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > This thread was worth it just so I could be linked to this. “You’re right…but wait for it”. Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/74 "2012-05-10T15:09:08Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > +1. > > Rand Rover - one of the more reliably predicatable posters on this board, came out and said that he not only supported gay marriage (i.e., he would vote in favor of it), but that he condemned NC for voting against it. That’s progress, folks! Celebrate it, don’t pull a “no true Scotsman” because he didn’t fly down to North Carolina and protest on main street. I don’t engage much with **RR** , but was he ever against SSM? He’s a Libertarian (and I capitalized that on purpose), I think, not a Republican. I know those are often considered synonymous in these parts, but they ain’t. Especially on issues like this. And isn’t he an atheist, to boot? ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/75 "2012-05-10T15:35:05Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > No. Y’all are engaged in some lousy analysis of the joke. > > Here’s the situation: Rand Rover made a shitty argument (namely, that being gay is different from being black because you can’t prove that someone is gay) and explained it in a ludicrous fashion (I’m gay. Prove I’m not.) > > The argument isn’t really worth being taken seriously, so people are making fun of him for his stupid argument instead of taking it seriously. > > That’s all. > > If you need to turn that into a lynch mob, you need help. What lynch mob? I just want to nail him to a fence ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/76 "2012-05-10T17:24:40Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Thought he was married with kids? 😕 Not to say it doesn’t happen. He cold be married to someone of the same gender. Come to think of it he may be a she considering the infatuation with one of the posters on thsi board. And if that is the case, its not at all a stretch to imagine that they have kids with the help of some rent-a-dad sperm donor. > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > If it’s such a shitty argument, then seems like it would be really easy for you to argue against it. Why haven’t you? Just because there is no objective easily observable evidence that you are gay doesn’t mean that I can’t discriminate against it. I know plenty of jews that could pass for non-Jews and it would still be illegal for me to discriminate against those Jews that are “openly Jewish” Immutability and choice has nothing to do with it. I can convert from Buddhism to Scientology and there would be no obvious evidence of that change. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > I don’t engage much with **RR** , but was he ever against SSM? He’s a Libertarian (and I capitalized that on purpose), I think, not a Republican. I know those are often considered synonymous in these parts, but they ain’t. Especially on issues like this. And isn’t he an atheist, to boot? > **[The 24 Types of Libertarian](https://leftycartoons.com/2010/06/29/the-24-types-of-libertarian/)** > > TITLE: The 24 Types of Libertarian Balding white guy: no fair oversimplifying our simplistic philosophy! Caption: NAIVE Happy guy with goatee: if the government would DISAPPEAR, everyone would act … He is more of a “screw the rest of you, I got mine” sort of Libertarian and that sort of Libertarian is often synonymous with Republican. > [@North Carolina passes hateful Amendment 1](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/north-carolina-passes-hateful-amendment-1/621351/248): > > jabbering about how everyone else needs to “be smarter” isn’t making _you_ look very smart. Thinking you are smarter than everyone else is an occupational hazard for tax lawyers. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/77 "2012-05-10T17:33:42Z")
Intelligence is a characteristic, not a virtue. A smart good man is a blessing to us all, a smart bad one is a curse. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/78 "2012-05-10T20:27:40Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Nope, that’s the amount of life left. > > Oops, mine’s red. Gotta Run You’ll be fine, just use a healing potion. For the Horde! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/79 "2012-05-10T20:38:50Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > You’ll be fine, just use a healing potion. For the Horde! 😃 Only a healing potion? It took me three “potions” and a booster shot before I…oh-_Horde_… Nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423/80 "2012-05-10T22:05:27Z")
I for one am willing to take **Randy** ’s word for it. His schooling on EP law does provide more evidence for my belief that he’s actually a bright but maladjusted teen who’s picked up some tidbits from a tax-lawyer father over the dinner table, and is intent on trying to come off as one himself in hopes of getting recognition and support from some usernames on some message board. Who here really thinks that the silly shit he posts can be the product of an educated adult intellect? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-for-rand-rover-out-and-proud/621423.md?page=5)