# Kudos To Elton John **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 4, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-to-elton-john/963951 "2022-05-04T17:23:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jim\_B](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jim_b/32/4338_2.png) [@Jim\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_B)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-to-elton-john/963951/1 "2022-05-04T17:23:12Z")
I wasn’t sure where this should go on these boards. But I just wanted to say, kudos to Elton John. The guy is gay. Yet AFAIK he’s not HIV positive. You know, he wasn’t promiscuous or at least used protection, at a time, when few gay men did. I just think he should be given some credit for that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-to-elton-john/963951/2 "2022-05-04T17:31:22Z")
While I also like Elton John, I think you are mistaken. I don’t think he was that careful at all back in the day. I think he was just very lucky. Of course, once he had kids he didn’t have time for all that hanky-panky any more. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-to-elton-john/963951/3 "2022-05-04T17:49:04Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > While I also like Elton John, I think you are mistaken. I don’t think he was that careful at all back in the day. I think he was just very lucky. Indeed. Watch _Rocketman_, which, while it’s a fictionalization, was made with Sir Elton’s blessing, and gives a sense for just how out-of-control he was, particularly in the '70s and early '80s. He cleaned up his act as he got older, and became happily monogamous, but he very likely did dodge a bullet, especially as it seems like the height of his period of out-of-control behavior coincided with the period in which HIV was spreading through the gay community, but wasn’t yet understood, and “safe sex” to avoid passing/catching HIV wasn’t yet a thing. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-to-elton-john/963951/4 "2022-05-04T17:54:47Z")
On the flip side of the OG Post, there are tons of gay guys who went through the pre-and-post-AIDS gay scene without being HIV-Positive. So kudos to Elton and millions of other dudes… ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-to-elton-john/963951/5 "2022-05-04T17:57:37Z")
> [@Jim\_B](#): > > I wasn’t sure where this should go on these boards. But I just wanted to say, kudos to Elton John. > > The guy is gay. Yet AFAIK he’s not HIV positive. > > You know, he wasn’t promiscuous or at least used protection, at a time, when few gay men did. I just think he should be given some credit for that. > > 🙂 Why? Because gay men who _were_ promiscuous deserved to get AIDS? Because unlike all those other horndogs, he was able to keep it in his pants? Neither Elton John’s HIV status nor his sexual history are anyone’s business but his and his family’s own. ETA: And being HIV+ is not shameful. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-to-elton-john/963951/6 "2022-05-04T18:03:40Z")
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-to-elton-john/963951/7 "2022-05-04T18:05:33Z")
This already multiple-flagged thread is closed. Further mod action may follow. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-to-elton-john/963951/8 "2022-05-04T18:17:50Z")
Moderating: > [@Jim\_B](#): > > I wasn’t sure where this should go on these boards. But I just wanted to say, kudos to Elton John. > > The guy is gay. Yet AFAIK he’s not HIV positive. > > You know, he wasn’t promiscuous or at least used protection, at a time, when few gay men did. I just think he should be given some credit for that. This is unabashed backhanded hate speech, in my view. The notion that simply because a man is gay, he is destined to become infected with HIV, is offensive and wrong. I find it more egregious because you attempted to couch your assertion in “friendly” speech. No warning this time, but it is noted that you have a history of starting such threads. I strongly urge you to stop doing this. Further action may follow here after consultation with other MPSIMS staff. This thread will remain closed. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-to-elton-john/963951/9 "2022-05-04T21:24:46Z")
Moderating with a Warning: > [@Jim\_B](#): > > I wasn’t sure where this should go on these boards. But I just wanted to say, kudos to Elton John. > > The guy is gay. Yet AFAIK he’s not HIV positive. > > You know, he wasn’t promiscuous or at least used protection, at a time, when few gay men did. I just think he should be given some credit for that. After discussion in the mod loop and a review of your posting history, we have decided my mod note will be upgraded to an official warning. You seem to have a fascination with gay sexuality that has resulted in 41 of your posts being flagged since we switched to Discourse. Here are some examples: > [@Celebrities Who Act Gay But DEFINITELY Aren't?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-who-act-gay-but-definitely-arent/957253): > > Because I personally don’t think that there is such a thing as gay mannerisms. But that question would be for a different section of these boards slightly_smiling_face . My question is, name a celebrity who acts gay, but who clearly isn’t. I personally am thinking mostly of males. But you can include females. I would like to start with Michael Dorn, who played the Klingon Worf on Star Trek: the Next Generation. He did do a convincing Klingon. But I have noticed that out of makeup he does act… > [@Why Are Some Lesbians So Mean?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-some-lesbians-so-mean/917853): > > You realize I am saying this as a gay man. But some Lesbians are really mean. Not half. Not all. But a good percentage of them I would say. Just to give one example (and I’ve seen many), we had this gym teacher in Catholic grade school, Miss C. And she was an obvious Lesbian. Anyway, we were outside, walking to the monastery field to do something. And this boy (let’s call him R) kept spitting every couple of feet. Finally Miss C apparently had enough. So she stopped the group, and she told him,… > [@Did We Treat Transgenderism Better in the Past?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-treat-transgenderism-better-in-the-past/926612): > > Speaking of course as Generation X’er (i.e., someone who grew up in the 1970’s and 80’s). Here is what I remember: -They were called ‘transexuals’. Transgender is probably more accurate. But transexual emphasized that it was purely biological. Their very sex needed to be changed. Get it? -It was a perfectly acceptable medical condition. It was not the person’s fault. I am not denying that we say that now. But I think this was more so the case in the past. The psychological component was not e… In short, you are creeping us out. So here’s an additional mod instruction: Please do not post again about gay characteristics, gay sexuality, gay celebrities or any other aspect of gayness or sex in general, on penalty of having your posting privileges suspended or revoked.