# Kurdistan re: Turkey

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurdistan-re-turkey/695316>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 11, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurdistan-re-turkey/695316 "2014-08-11T16:59:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurdistan-re-turkey/695316/61 "2014-08-14T01:30:08Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> They certainly think so. In fact many if no most “Irish Protestants” in Ulster would take the phrase as an insult. They prefer the term “Ulstermen.”
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> Most of the Nationalists don’t disagree.
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> That said, what constitutes an ethnic group and how people identify themselves is certainly not an easy question to answer.

What about Ulster Catholics? Do they count as “Ulstermen”?

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurdistan-re-turkey/695316/62 "2014-08-14T01:37:25Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> What about Ulster Catholics? Do they count as “Ulstermen”?

No.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurdistan-re-turkey/695316/63 "2014-08-14T13:20:03Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> No.

Then what are they called?

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurdistan-re-turkey/695316/64 "2014-08-14T13:41:47Z")

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Irish. At least that’s how they self identify.

If you asked someone who’s from North of 125th Street in New York City where they’re from, they probably won’t say Manhattan.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurdistan-re-turkey/695316/65 "2014-08-14T15:55:29Z")

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> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#):
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> If you asked someone who’s from North of 125th Street in New York City where they’re from, they probably won’t say Manhattan.

What will they say?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurdistan-re-turkey/695316/66 "2014-08-14T16:41:40Z")

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“Stop bothering me, I’m late for work.”

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