# Kurds = Hittites? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 9, 2005, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619 "2005-06-09T17:56:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dbc845/32.png) [@Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aram_Hittite_KURD)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/21 "2013-07-21T03:22:36Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Seems reasonably unlikely that the Kurds have only pretended to be Muslim for the last 1200 years or so. Not all the Kurds! we can tell there was Kurdish man like Saladin who were extremist and a big leader of Islam, but who were Jewish they migrated to west and who were Zoroastrian they moved to the mountains with the rest! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/22 "2013-07-21T03:51:36Z")
> [@Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](#): > > It’s not Kurdyman it’s Kurdish Sir, > > Thought you were serious Scientist who actually looking to reveal the Truth, but it seems you are probably one of the Kurd killers around the area! There is no science more serious than the study of supernatural mirror killers. ---
**Author:** ![Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dbc845/32.png) [@Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aram_Hittite_KURD)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/23 "2013-07-21T03:53:39Z")
How do you know that, the Kurdish and Hittites are not very close languages?! do you speak Kurdish? or you just have read some theory written by Ottoman empire or Persian empire?! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/24 "2013-07-21T04:05:52Z")
> [@Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](#): > > Thought you were serious Scientist who actually looking to reveal the Truth, but it seems you are probably one of the Kurd killers around the area! > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > There is no science more serious than the study of supernatural mirror killers. Oh yeah? Well, where are all of the Kurds in central Florida? There aren’t any, are there? So obviously somebody must have killed them. ---
**Author:** ![Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dbc845/32.png) [@Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aram_Hittite_KURD)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/25 "2013-07-21T04:10:50Z")
Sorry Thought you were Turk or Arab! they say horrible things while you are talking to them. sorry again dude! ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/26 "2013-07-21T04:16:07Z")
Kurdish: > **[Kurdish languages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_language)** > > Ancient > Medieval Hittite: > **[Hittite language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittite_language)** > > Hittite (natively 𒌷𒉌𒅆𒇷 nišili / "the language of Neša", or nešumnili / "the language of the people of Neša"), also known as Nesite (Nešite / Neshite, Nessite), is an extinct Indo-European language that was spoken by the Hittites, a people of Bronze Age Anatolia who created an empire centred on Hattusa, as well as parts of the northern Levant and Upper Mesopotamia. The language, now long extinct, is attested in cuneiform, in records dating from the 17th (Anitta text) to the 13th centuries By th... English: > **[English language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language)** > > English is a West Germanic language in the Indo-European language family, with its earliest forms spoken by the inhabitants of early medieval England. It is named after the Angles, one of the ancient Germanic peoples that migrated to the island of Great Britain. Existing on a dialect continuum with Scots and then most closely related to the Low Saxon and Frisian languages, Modern English is genealogically Germanic. Although its grammar and core vocabulary are mostly West Germanic, it has The... So Kurdish is part of the Indo-Iranian branch, Hittite is part of the Anatolian branch, and English is part of the Germanic branch of the Indo-European family. Languages in the same branch aren’t close enough to mutually intelligible, but you might occasionally be able to notice that some words sound similar and appear to be cognate with each other. It’s unlikely that you could even notice that two words are cognate in different branches, let alone be able to understand one language from knowledge of the other language. So, no, a Kurdish speaker can’t understand Hittite. This is very well established in linguistics circles. There’s no political debate about this at all. You might actually be a Kurdish speaker, but I find it extremely unlikely you can read Hittite. Hittite died out three thousand years ago. There are no descendants of it. You would have to be a scholar of ancient languages even to be able to read it. And, of course, nobody claims to be able to speak it, since it’s only known from written sources. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/27 "2013-07-21T04:23:04Z")
> [@Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](#): > > Sorry Thought you were Turk or Arab! they say horrible things while you are talking to them. sorry again dude! That’s not surprising if you call Iranians Arabs. ---
**Author:** ![Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dbc845/32.png) [@Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aram_Hittite_KURD)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/28 "2013-07-21T04:30:20Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > Kurdish: > > [Kurdish language - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_language) > > Hittite: > > [Hittite language - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittite_language) > > English: > > [English language - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language) > > So Kurdish is part of the Indo-Iranian branch, Hittite is part of the Anatolian branch, and English is part of the Germanic branch of the Indo-European family. Languages in the same branch aren’t close enough to mutually intelligible, but you might occasionally be able to notice that some words sound similar and appear to be cognate with each other. It’s unlikely that you could even notice that two words are cognate in different branches, let alone be able to understand one language from knowledge of the other language. So, no, a Kurdish speaker can’t understand Hittite. This is very well established in linguistics circles. There’s no political debate about this at all. > > You might actually be a Kurdish speaker, but I find it extremely unlikely you can read Hittite. Hittite died out three thousand years ago. There are no descendants of it. You would have to be a scholar of ancient languages even to be able to read it. And, of course, nobody claims to be able to speak it, since it’s only known from written sources. Are you looking for truth?! I asure you sir that Kurdish Wiki is a massive deception and biggest lie humans have ever committed! Kurdish Wiki is based on some theory belongs to Iranian or some Arabs and Turks. especially after islam conquer. whoever came after Medes has written it for complementing themselves, and their kings, Mastawchi , very small amount of truth tellers has written the history as they researched! but what about if we have the Hittites themselves?! how about that? if you are an archaeologist or History man who wants to bring something new to the world, I will help you out, but if you are an internet worrier, I am done somple 🙂 thanks Sir ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/29 "2013-07-21T05:01:38Z")
Why should we believe anything you say? ---
**Author:** ![Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dbc845/32.png) [@Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aram_Hittite_KURD)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/30 "2013-07-21T05:15:55Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > Why should we believe anything you say? Because I have a voice and I know I can be a part of the solution, if you are aiming to do something about it. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/31 "2013-07-21T06:12:25Z")
> [@Aram\_Hittite\_KURD](#): > > It’s not Kurdyman it’s Kurdish Sir, > > Thought you were serious Scientist who actually looking to reveal the Truth, but it seems you are probably one of the Kurd killers around the area! [Moderating] I think we’ve seen enough of this. This is closed. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/32 "2013-07-21T17:49:37Z")
[Moderating] I closed this thread because **Aram Hittite KURD** was spouting incoherent nonsense and beginning to insult his opponents, including accusing them of genocide as in the post quoted above. This was not appropriate for GQ, and considering that AHK wasn’t providing any evidence for his assertions a move to Great Debates would have just resulted in an even worse trainwreck. Upon reconsideration, I’ve decide to reopen it and move it to the Pit so people can express themselves more freely. My apologies to the Pit mods. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/33 "2013-07-21T17:57:58Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > My apologies to the Pit mods. > > Colibri > General Questions Moderator Riiiiight. I can see that smirk from here. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/34 "2013-07-21T18:13:21Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Riiiiight. I can see that smirk from here. He can barely kurd his enthusiasm. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/35 "2013-07-21T18:23:53Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Oh yeah? Well, where are all of the Kurds in central Florida? There aren’t any, are there? So obviously somebody must have killed them. _hangs head_ It’s a fair cop. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/36 "2013-07-21T18:36:31Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Oh yeah? Well, where are all of the Kurds in central Florida? There aren’t any, are there? So obviously somebody must have killed them. Maybe the Kurds just went awhey. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/37 "2013-07-21T18:39:58Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Maybe the Kurds just went awhey. Oh is this going to be one of those cheesy pun threads where people just keep milking it? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/38 "2013-07-21T19:09:40Z")
If not, this thread is going to sour really fast! ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/39 "2013-07-21T19:10:40Z")
I’ve always wondered and this appears to be the correct venue for this question: what the heck is a tuffet? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619/40 "2013-07-21T19:13:40Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > I’ve always wondered and this appears to be the correct venue for this question: what the heck is a tuffet? It means “ass” in Hittite. “Muffet” was a common Hittite surname in the mountainous regions during the 2nd millennium BC. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurds-hittites/307619.md?page=3)