# Kurt Busch. Is he crazy or what?

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**Created:** [January 14, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831 "2015-01-14T17:42:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/1 "2015-01-14T17:42:45Z")

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Kurt Busch claims his ex girlfriend is an assassin.  
[http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/14/nascar-driver-kurt-busch-says-ex-girlfriend-who-accused-him-abuse-is-trained/?cmpid=cmty\_twitter\_fn](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/14/nascar-driver-kurt-busch-says-ex-girlfriend-who-accused-him-abuse-is-trained/?cmpid=cmty_twitter_fn)

Busch said Driscoll repeatedly asserted her assassin status and claimed the work took her on missions across Central and South America and Africa. He recounted one time when the couple was in El Paso, Texas. He said Driscoll left in camouflage gear only to return later wearing a trench coat over an evening gown covered with blood.

A day earlier, Busch said his ex-girlfriend told him she was a mercenary who killed people for a living and had shown him pictures of bodies with gunshot wounds.

Busch said Tuesday that Driscoll had claimed that a female character in “Zero Dark Thirty,” a film depicting the CIA’s hunt for Osama bin Laden, was a composite of her and other women.

Last month, Michael Doncheff, who served as a personal assistant to Busch and Driscoll, said an ailing Driscoll told him in September that she had been picked up by a big man and slammed to the ground while helping round up immigrants at the Mexican border, a story Doncheff considered “far-fetched.”

Doncheff said Driscoll also asserted that she was a trained assassin for the U.S. government and once told him, “I take down foreign governments. I own Washington.”  
This is so bizarre.

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**Author:** ![DingoelGringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@DingoelGringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DingoelGringo)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/2 "2015-01-14T17:50:05Z")

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And he is still alive after that?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/3 "2015-01-14T17:58:04Z")

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I don’t follow NASCAR, but this is such an odd story. [NPR](http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/01/13/377082833/nascar-s-kurt-busch-testifies-that-ex-girlfriend-is-an-assassin)quoted the AP as saying that:

> [@NPR](#):
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> Busch \*\*and others \*\*testified “that Driscoll claimed she was a trained assassin who had killed people, including drug lords,”

(my bold)  
but the AP article cited by NPR didn’t actually contain that line. So I’m not sure if it’s only Busch, or Busch and others, saying that Driscoll claimed to be an assassin.

Driscoll does apparently work for some kind of defense [consulting company](http://www.frontlinedefensesystems.com/personnel/index.html), but their advertised services seem to be related to surveillance and other technologies (not that actual mercenaries would advertise head-of-state-assassinations on their website)

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/4 "2015-01-14T18:47:30Z")

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> [@DingoelGringo](#):
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> And he is still alive after that?

Yeah, really. I mean, he’s a race car driver, fer cryin’ out loud. Plenty of opportunities for an unfortunate “accident”.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/5 "2015-01-14T19:02:20Z")

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Sounds like she’s the crazy one. She said in the article Busch made those allegations based on a screenplay she’s been working on for the past 8 years, but she’s told other people besides Busch that she was a super soldier and helped kill Bin Ladin.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/6 "2015-01-14T19:29:04Z")

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Makes you wonder why they broke up. I mean, if a NASCAR driver and a government assassin can’t make a go of it in this topsy-turvy world, what hope is there for any of us?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/7 "2015-01-14T21:45:11Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I mean, if a NASCAR driver and a government assassin can’t make a go of it in this topsy-turvy world, what hope is there for any of us?

Why does this sound like a pitch for a sitcom?

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/8 "2015-01-14T22:47:27Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Why does this sound like a pitch for a sitcom?

Or a light hearted family spy series. He races cars, she uses his racing to disguise her activities. Traveling with him from track to track on secret government missions. Although I don’t know how many exciting spy stories you can set in Lincoln AL or Long Pand PA.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/9 "2015-01-14T23:36:48Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Or a light hearted family spy series. He races cars, she uses his racing to disguise her activities.

Change the racing driver to a tennis player and you may be onto something.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/10 "2015-01-14T23:37:41Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Change the racing driver to a tennis player and you may be onto something.

Too rapey.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/11 "2015-01-14T23:53:21Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Why does this sound like a pitch for a sitcom?

Well, it is posted in Cafe Society.

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/12 "2015-01-15T01:37:41Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Makes you wonder why they broke up. I mean, if a NASCAR driver and a government assassin can’t make a go of it in this topsy-turvy world, what hope is there for any of us?

Nice.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/13 "2015-01-15T01:39:37Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Makes you wonder why they broke up. I mean, if a NASCAR driver and a government assassin can’t make a go of it in this topsy-turvy world, what hope is there for any of us?

You win the internets … for today.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/14 "2015-01-15T02:21:28Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I don’t follow NASCAR, but this is such an odd story. [NPR](http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/01/13/377082833/nascar-s-kurt-busch-testifies-that-ex-girlfriend-is-an-assassin)quoted the AP as saying that:  
> (my bold)  
> but the AP article cited by NPR didn’t actually contain that line. So I’m not sure if it’s only Busch, or Busch and others, saying that Driscoll claimed to be an assassin.
> 
> Driscoll does apparently work for some kind of defense [consulting company](http://www.frontlinedefensesystems.com/personnel/index.html), but their advertised services seem to be related to surveillance and other technologies (not that actual mercenaries would advertise head-of-state-assassinations on their website)

From your link:

MS. PATRICIA DRISCOLL  
Patricia has spent the majority of her career in the narcotics and intelligence world. While working abroad, many issues came up at home that brought her to Washington DC, where over the last 9 years she has developed strong relationships in the House, Senate, and the White House. Her strongest ally’s are the Armed Services Committee, Appropriations, Ways and Means, the Homeland Security Committee, and the Intelligence Committee. Here are a few of the things she has been involved in over the past few years:  
•Became an advisor for the field directors of Border Patrol and Customs to Congress and Headquarters Border Patrol and US Customs  
• Testified before Congress on small business issues regarding Homeland Security  
•Was paid by the British Embassy to go on a speaking tour of England regarding “Doing Business with Homeland Security”. I was the panel expert on the law enforcement section as well as the security and intelligence components.  
• Was invited to be a panel expert for the intelligence field for the Dept. of Defense summit on Small Business at the Pentagon.  
•Panel advisor for State Dept. to the Ambassador for Human Trafficking  
• Congressional advisor for narcotics, trafficking, immigration, and border protection

Copyright 2006 Frontline Defense Systems  
She may not be an assassin, but she sure has a very cool resume.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/15 "2015-01-15T03:14:45Z")

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She was trying to get a reality TV series based on what she does, but that apparently never happened.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/16 "2015-01-15T03:53:25Z")

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> [@Honey](#):
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> From your link:
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> MS. PATRICIA DRISCOLL  
> Patricia has spent the majority of her career in the narcotics and intelligence world. While working abroad, many issues came up at home that brought her to Washington DC, where over the last 9 years she has developed strong relationships in the House, Senate, and the White House. Her strongest ally’s are the Armed Services Committee, Appropriations, Ways and Means, the Homeland Security Committee, and the Intelligence Committee. Here are a few of the things she has been involved in over the past few years:  
> •Became an advisor for the field directors of Border Patrol and Customs to Congress and Headquarters Border Patrol and US Customs  
> • Testified before Congress on small business issues regarding Homeland Security  
> •Was paid by the British Embassy to go on a speaking tour of England regarding “Doing Business with Homeland Security”. I was the panel expert on the law enforcement section as well as the security and intelligence components.  
> • Was invited to be a panel expert for the intelligence field for the Dept. of Defense summit on Small Business at the Pentagon.  
> •Panel advisor for State Dept. to the Ambassador for Human Trafficking  
> • Congressional advisor for narcotics, trafficking, immigration, and border protection
> 
> Copyright 2006 Frontline Defense Systems  
> She may not be an assassin, but she sure has a very cool resume.

So that is dated 2006… and according to her wiki page, she was born in 1977… how does a 29 year old get access to those other people listed on the FDS website, and where did the money come from to form the company, which lists her as CEO?

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/17 "2015-01-15T04:15:47Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> So that is dated 2006… and according to her wiki page, she was born in 1977… how does a 29 year old get access to those other people listed on the FDS website, and where did the money come from to form the company, which lists her as CEO?

A CIA assassin comes to your bank for a loan, you gonna say no?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/18 "2015-01-15T04:27:10Z")

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The [Armed Forces Foundation](https://armedforcesfoundation.org/about/) website says Miss Driscoll became it’s President in 2003, when she was just 25 or 26 years old. It claims to raise more than $10 million annually and to have somehow spent more than $95 million in “assistance” to service members and their families since it’s inception.

Seriously: who is this woman?

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/19 "2015-01-15T05:23:34Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> She was trying to get a reality TV series based on what she does, but that apparently never happened.

This woman couldn’t get a TV show?, yet they gave one to Honey, Boo, Boo? If her list of accomplishments is accurate, I would’ve watched that show.

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kurt-busch-is-he-crazy-or-what/709831/20 "2015-01-15T06:53:38Z")

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I knew when I read this story earlier [del]today[/del] yesterday that the SDMB was agonna have fun with it.

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