# "Kyle Rayner" - Chauvinistic Moron **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 7, 2005, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411 "2005-07-07T04:17:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/1 "2005-07-07T04:17:51Z")
I’ll let the stupidity talk for itself. What I’ve gathered from [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=324048) is that you really respect this girl and care about her as a person. > [@Kyle Rayner](#): > > Now, I hang out with girls a lot because my friends always have enough alcohol to lure them to one of their houses. > [@same moron](#): > > she asked me if I wanted to chill with her a couple times but I had to save face in front of the guys so I changed the subject because I didn’t want anyone to know I liked her > [@same moron](#): > > yes I was kind of nervous about the guys but that was because she’s kind of slutty and she’s been with a lot of guys that I was friends with and I didn’t want to get my ass kicked. > [@same moron](#): > > I think she wanted me to give her my number because she thought I would leave a lot of vulgar messages on her cell phone. > [@same moron](#): > > I grabbed her tits, she called me gay because I was close to my friends, etc. So that’s why she probably wanted my number. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/2 "2005-07-07T04:27:12Z")
Oh my God, he’s a typical teenage boy! _Let’s kick his ass!_ ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/3 "2005-07-07T04:28:15Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Oh my God, he’s a typical teenage boy! _Let’s kick his ass!_ Hahaha… good call! ---
**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/4 "2005-07-07T04:35:56Z")
He pretends he likes her, he’s soliciting information about the best way to ask her out etc, but she’s a dirty slut he doesn’t want to acknowledge knowing. He believes she’s after him because he grabbed her tits, and he thinks she wants to give her number to him because she wants more of this shit via text message. Why the fuck should this get a pass because he’s a teenager? He’s 18 years old, he’s entitled to vote, drink, smoke, drive. He’s an adult and should be held accountable for his fucked-up statements about this girl. ---
**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/5 "2005-07-07T04:45:52Z")
To be fair, he said that **she** wanted \*\*his \*\* number, because she thought if she gave him **her** number he’d fill her voicebox with smut, most likely trying to be funny. And read the whole sentence re: the tit-grabbing thing – “I grabbed her tits, she called me gay, etc.” From what I understood, he thought she wanted his number because of the horseplay and sexual tones to it. As for her being too slutty to date and whatnot – he needs a slap, I’m in total agreement. Honestly, though, is he the first teen-aged boy to worry about what his boys will think if he dates a certain girl? Of course not. Stupid, silly, chauvanistic, and not to be encouraged, but he’ll grow out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/6 "2005-07-07T04:50:13Z")
> [@Atticus Finch](#): > > Why the fuck should this get a pass because he’s a teenager? He’s 18 years old, he’s entitled to vote, drink, smoke, drive. He’s an adult and should be held accountable for his fucked-up statements about this girl. Because if you’re going to pit every teenage boy for being a dick you’re going to bring down the board with the volume of OP’s you start. Prediction: if he shows up at all he’s not going to change his mind. This’ll either die down fairly quickly or we’ll have 5-10 pages of hysterical offended people telling him he’s an asshole, which he’ll ignore and either defend himself into a banning or disappear from the thread entirely. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/7 "2005-07-07T05:06:35Z")
Come on, his girlfriend just [died.](http://www.the-pantheon.net/wir/)😃 He’s not chauvinistic; his writer is. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/8 "2005-07-07T05:19:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Oh my God, he’s a typical teenage boy! _Let’s kick his ass!_ Actually, after sober reflection, this sounds like a hell of a good idea after all. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/9 "2005-07-07T05:31:14Z")
Damn, I was just about to go to bed for the night, sober because most of my friends are in Florida for the next six days and in a pissed off mood and to top if all off I get a Pit thread… I guess tonight wasn’t a waste of time after all. First off **Atticus Finch** I thought I clarified in subsequent posts that I was more concerned about getting my ass kicked from the guys that formerly solicited this girl’s attentions than my rep. Yes, I still wanted to be cool with my friends and I regret it, that’s why it started out as a Pit thread before it got moved to MPSIMS. I think you also missed (in your rush to prove I was a pig only caring about the pussy) that I was perfectly fine in being her friend as well. Actually, I would like to be her friend because she’s funny as hell. I bet if you heard her talk for five minutes she would be in the Pit instead of myself and you would be cheering me on in my efforts to shit on her face (don’t get offended **Finch** it was just a joke). One last thing, we fuck around with each other all the time (or used to) especially in class (I feel sorry for the sub we had one day). ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/10 "2005-07-07T05:38:03Z")
Oh shit, now this really is the last thing. You said I didn’t want to acknowledge knowing her well I can say that’s bullshit right there. I sat at her lunch table all the time even when the other guys wanted me to sit with them. I said “nah I’m going to chill with her guys.” Everyone knows we chilled together at lunch and in class so I’m sorry but maybe you should get another… **CITE** ---
**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/11 "2005-07-07T06:14:49Z")
Ok, so it wasn’t that you didn’t want to acknowledge knowing her because she was a slut, it’s that you didn’t want to acknowledge her overtures / invitations to hang out because she was a slut. Guess what - the part that I just changed is not the part of that concept that’s so incredibly insulting to the girl. And it’s this particular concept that’s the basis of this pitting, I guess. You didn’t want to be seen liking a girl because she was a slut. For that, you deserve to be called a chauvinistic asshole. The rest just shows you as a jackass, and perhaps I read your ambiguously phrased comments more harshly than necessary - the “vulgar messages” bit, that is, I might have been wrong on that. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/12 "2005-07-07T15:11:07Z")
Okay… one last time. I didn’t care if she was a slut and I was cool with it, no big deal. It was the guys she had recently had flings with I was concerned with because I didn’t want to get my ass kicked. If you knew these guys you would definelt yunderstad where I was coming from. Again, I’m not proud for not having more balls to do the right thing. Yes, I was a little worried about my rep also but as I made clearer in other posts it had more to do with being friends with those guys as well and wanting to stay friends. Now, I regret it that’s why I pitted myself in the first place before the thread was moved. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/13 "2005-07-07T15:16:56Z")
there should be a rule that if you are going to pit someone and the pittee has already pitted themselves for the same thing, the pitter should be held responsible for ensuring that their pit is of higher quality than the pit that the pittee already pitted against themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/14 "2005-07-07T15:26:59Z")
Yeah, I mean the guy originally pitted himself and the mods moved it. The thread would have had more legs if it was left here. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/15 "2005-07-07T15:34:46Z")
18 you say? I’m leaning younger. 14 maybe. Let’s see if he posts next about his penis size. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/16 "2005-07-07T15:34:52Z")
Hey, Kyle, you seem pretty sharp, can you help me out here? Sometimes I meet guys who are pretty cool, and I want to hang out with them, you know, hit the arcade or whatnot, and I want to get their cell number. But I don’t want them to think I’m, you know, gay or anything. Got any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/17 "2005-07-07T15:41:08Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > there should be a rule that if you are going to pit someone and the pittee has already pitted themselves for the same thing, the pitter should be held responsible for ensuring that their pit is of higher quality than the pit that the pittee already pitted against themselves. Yeah! ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/18 "2005-07-07T19:07:46Z")
It’s official as per **SkipMagic** , **Kyle Rainer1** was a sock puppet for **START**. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/19 "2005-07-07T19:09:31Z")
> [@Kythereia](#): > > It’s official as per **SkipMagic** , **Kyle Rainer1** was a sock puppet for **START**. > > Thoughts? Think many of us were fooled? Look up a couple of posts. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![JimSox5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JimSox5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JimSox5)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411/20 "2005-07-07T19:32:05Z")
Excuse me for my complete lack of surprise, **Kythereia**. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner-chauvinistic-moron/311411.md?page=2)