# Kyle Rayner1 and his crap about cops **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 4, 2005, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036 "2005-09-04T10:58:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/201 "2005-09-08T22:06:14Z")
> [@Dag Otto](#): > > I guess a tattoo works, but a waiver of the cape requirement will be needed from the Vigilante Union. NO CAPES! ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/202 "2005-09-08T22:23:31Z")
What we haven’t addressed yet is whether Kyle wants to be a wholesome warbond-selling Golden Age type vigilante or an edgey, swearing 1980’s type vigilante. If he goes with the toga, I think the latter is inevitable. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/203 "2005-09-08T22:28:46Z")
Does **Kyle** remind anyone else of **Wildest\_Bill**. No, I’m NOT saying they’re the same person, just that that’s the kind of person we’re up against. Someone who comes up with some zany idea and clings to it no matter how many times we provide evidence to dispute it. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/204 "2005-09-08T22:41:55Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > What we haven’t addressed yet is whether Kyle wants to be a wholesome warbond-selling Golden Age type vigilante or an edgey, swearing 1980’s type vigilante. If he goes with the toga, I think the latter is inevitable. I see him more as the tortured young man struggling to come to grips with his new-found powers and abilities in the face of a world which fears and shuns his kind: I fear a swirling black trenchcoat is inevitable. Just don’t emblazon a big red “S” on your body-armour: it may stand for “Stupid”, but not even the power of **Kyle** can hope to stand against the massed legions of The Lawyers. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/205 "2005-09-08T23:54:36Z")
> [@](#): > > I see him more as the tortured young man struggling to come to grips with his new-found powers and abilities Logging on, typing, and hitting SUBMIT? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/206 "2005-09-09T00:16:43Z")
Nah, character recognition. (Pun, of course: letter recognition and his ridiculous idea about Batman.) ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/207 "2005-09-09T01:20:28Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Logging on, typing, and hitting SUBMIT? I was thinking along the lines of opposable thumbs. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/208 "2005-09-09T04:22:09Z")
**Uvula Donor** , thanks I’ll check out the video. Sorry for cursing you out you just caught me on a bad day. AS for you kidchamleon I mean a vigilante that doesn’t kill so the Mafia doesn’[t count. I think a group of vigilantes would weaken the government’s power and they won’t be able to hurt the poor anymore. And Monty a real vigilante would give the poor a break like a real hero should. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/209 "2005-09-09T04:41:14Z")
> [@Kyle Rayner1](#): > > **Uvula Donor** , thanks I’ll check out the video. Sorry for cursing you out you just caught me on a bad day. AS for you kidchamleon I mean a vigilante that doesn’t kill so the Mafia doesn’[t count. > > I think a group of vigilantes would weaken the government’s power and they won’t be able to hurt the poor anymore. > > And Monty a real vigilante would give the poor a break like a real hero should. And if a criminal happens to be poor-what then? ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/210 "2005-09-09T04:42:53Z")
> [@Kyle Rayner1](#): > > And Monty a real vigilante would give the poor a break like a real hero should. “It’s ok that you just murdered that bully, Timmy, because you’re. . .” [places hands on hips, cape flowing gloriously behind him and says in his deepest, most awe-inspiring superheroey (ahem, excuse me, “vilgilante-ey”) voice] **"POOR!"** ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/211 "2005-09-09T04:43:14Z")
> [@Kyle Rayner1](#): > > I think a group of vigilantes would weaken the government’s power and they won’t be able to hurt the poor anymore. > > And Monty a real vigilante would give the poor a break like a real hero should. **Kyle, Kyle, Kyle.** Whatever are we to do with you? Has it occurred to you that if a thread goes to five pages of people telling you why your cartoon concept of a “real hero” who “would weaken the government’s power” is childish and unworkable, you should start to rethink your ideas? Read the sentences I quoted again out loud: they sound like a 10 year old wrote them. “I think they would stop them being mean to people and be more nice to poor people.” ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/212 "2005-09-09T04:44:01Z")
As long as the criminal isn’t a muderer he should be let go. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/213 "2005-09-09T04:45:29Z")
I mean the poor criminal. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/214 "2005-09-09T04:46:36Z")
> [@Kyle Rayner1](#): > > As long as the criminal isn’t a muderer he should be let go. So you’re fine with stealing? I’m sure that’d be of great benefit to the poor- anybody who gets robbed has no recourse. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/215 "2005-09-09T04:47:20Z")
Tell that to my fucking asshole mayor, Case Sensitive. You don’t understand the issues in the city right across the bridge from me. I’m telling you the poor people are losing housing because the mayor wants more hotels, that’s bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/216 "2005-09-09T04:48:51Z")
Ah. Yeah, then it’s what other people said. Why does being poor make it okay to commit crime? Do poor people just deserve a break, or do you think poor people have no choice, or no morals, or what? ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/217 "2005-09-09T04:49:05Z")
I hiope the poor steals everything my mayor owns and his fucking ass family. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/218 "2005-09-09T04:49:18Z")
> [@Kyle Rayner1](#): > > As long as the criminal isn’t a muderer he should be let go. Cool. So in KyleWorld, a poor guy could: Break into a house, steal everything he could carry, kidnap an eight-year-old out of her bed, take her back to his shack in the woods and tie her up, rape her for several months, then move on and leave her to starve, **and it’s all OK by Kyle, as long as she doesn’t die**. Because he’s poor. That’s a real rational viewpoint you’ve got there, buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/219 "2005-09-09T04:50:11Z")
I mean hope\* ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/220 "2005-09-09T04:51:15Z")
I’m against rape too. I mean a poor guy should be able to steal from the asshole mayor and I don’t give a shit if they steal everything he owns. I hope he winds up on the streets. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036.md?page=12)