# Kyle Rayner1 and his crap about cops

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 4, 2005, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036 "2005-09-04T10:58:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/241 "2005-09-09T05:19:53Z")

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> [@Kyle Rayner1](#):
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> Hey I still respect you Guin I don’t care what you call me but no I’m not registeredi n that city. I live in the other town over but I went to school there because I got kicked out of my old school.

Kicked out of school, eh?

Are you registered at ALL?

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**Author:** ![fushj00mang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@fushj00mang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fushj00mang)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/242 "2005-09-09T05:21:39Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Kicked out of school, eh?
> 
> Are you registered at ALL?

Maybe with the local animal control board. “Mrs. Rayner? Your son’s been barking too loudly again.”

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**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/243 "2005-09-09T05:22:33Z")

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No, Guin. I got kicked out of my old school for getting into a fight and pissing in someone’s backpack. I went to anothe regular public school and that was right across the bridge from me.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/244 "2005-09-09T05:26:46Z")

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> [@Kyle Rayner1](#):
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> Am I the only one that cares?

Work on your delivery, son. Stand in the pouring rain atop a gargoyle that adorns a grimy cathedral rooftop, your unshaven profile {you do shave, I take it?} outlined against the crumbling spire by flashes of lightning as the storm in your soul mirrors that raging over the savage Babylon beneath, your trenchcoat swirling in the gale that blows the trash through those sordid streets, throw your head back, and snarl it at the implacable elements: “AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT _CARES_?”

PS: Scampering rats and fluttering doves would aid the symbolism.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/245 "2005-09-09T05:28:48Z")

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> [@Kyle Rayner1](#):
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> No, Guin. I got kicked out of my old school for getting into a fight and pissing in someone’s backpack. I went to anothe regular public school and that was right across the bridge from me.

Ah. I see.

So, first, you’re not even registered to vote, yet you seem to know best how to deal with this guy.

Second, you were kicked out of school for _urinating on someone else’s property._

Niiiiiiiiice. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/246 "2005-09-09T05:28:59Z")

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> [@Kyle Rayner1](#):
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> No, Guin. I got kicked out of my old school for getting into a fight and pissing in someone’s backpack. I went to anothe regular public school and that was right across the bridge from me.

What do you suppose the odds are that within the next 24 hours, the screenname **Kyle Rayner1** says a variation on one of the next three statements?

1. I’m sorry, guys, my [del]dead[/del] little brother got into my account where I was still logged in.

2. I’m sorry, guys, it was quarter draft night at the bar across the street.

or,

1. I’m sorry, guys, in a drunken stupor I accidentally spraypainted my screenname and password on the overpass last night.

Or can he really be this dumb?

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/247 "2005-09-09T05:29:49Z")

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> [@Kyle Rayner1](#):
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> I got kicked out of my old school for getting into a fight and pissing in someone’s backpack.

I’m not sure that’s quite how Batman got his start. The Punisher, now, who knows?

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**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/248 "2005-09-09T05:30:30Z")

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You guys may joke about it but I wish you could see the suffering whee I live, you wouldn’t be laughing, trust me.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/249 "2005-09-09T05:31:17Z")

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> [@Kyle Rayner1](#):
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> They’re ignorant, you see. It’s obvious you’ve never seen or lived near a poor community because you don’t know what your talking about so fuck off.

So on top of all that, you’re a snob?

Look at it this way: you tried your hand at the vigilante thing with the fighting and backpack-pissing. How much better was your school after you did that? (I mean, aside from the natural improvement caused by the fact that they got rid of you.)

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/250 "2005-09-09T05:31:37Z")

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> [@Kyle Rayner1](#):
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> You guys may joke about it but I wish you could see the suffering whee I live, you wouldn’t be laughing, trust me.

Whee!

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**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/251 "2005-09-09T05:31:39Z")

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I knew I would get heat for that but it was for a good reason trust me plus I was younger than.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/252 "2005-09-09T05:32:09Z")

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> [@Case Sensitive](#):
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> Work on your delivery, son. Stand in the pouring rain atop a gargoyle that adorns a grimy cathedral rooftop, your unshaven profile {you do shave, I take it?} outlined against the crumbling spire by flashes of lightning as the storm in your soul mirrors that raging over the savage Babylon beneath, your trenchcoat swirling in the gale that blows the trash through those sordid streets, throw your head back, and snarl it at the implacable elements: “AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT _CARES_?”
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> PS: Scampering rats and fluttering doves would aid the symbolism.

It also helps if you have abs like Christian Bale’s.

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**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/253 "2005-09-09T05:34:50Z")

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Believe me if a vigilante could embarass the current mayor I would be all for it.

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/254 "2005-09-09T05:35:40Z")

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> [@Kyle Rayner1](#):
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> I knew I would get heat for that but it was for a good reason trust me plus I was younger than.

Younger than who? All of us, apparently, at least mentally, but we’ve already figured that out.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/255 "2005-09-09T05:36:22Z")

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> [@Kyle Rayner1](#):
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> I knew I would get heat for that but it was for a good reason trust me plus I was younger than.

That does sound like just what you would say. You do a great imitation of yourself.

I hate to sound like an old Republican here, because I’m neither, but people can and do get out of poverty and terrible surroundings. I’m not saying it happens every time, but it does happen. You’re assuming they can’t, and you’re assuming that it’ll help them if they have lowered expectations and don’t even have to obey the law. Those are both pretty confusing.

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/256 "2005-09-09T05:37:03Z")

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> [@Kyle Rayner1](#):
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> Believe me if a vigilante could embarass the current mayor I would be all for it.

So you went from burglary to rape to…embarassment?!

So, like, pissing in his bookbag?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/257 "2005-09-09T05:38:30Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
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> So you went from burglary to rape to…embarassment?!
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> So, like, pissing in his bookbag?

This is actually _beneath_ the dignity of the costumed vigilantes he’s proposing. I might wear tights and a cape and fight crime if I had the strength and the body for it, but peeing on stuff for revenge? No way.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/258 "2005-09-09T05:38:57Z")

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> [@Kyle Rayner1](#):
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> You guys may joke about it but I wish you could see the suffering whee I live, you wouldn’t be laughing, trust me.

Anyone else getting a Tom Cruise vibe here?

“You don’t know poverty and suffering! I do!”

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**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/259 "2005-09-09T05:42:36Z")

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Listen, I’m not saying you guys don;t know poverty but this mayor has screwed this city far enough if I could put real names I would but it’s against Dope rules.

I entertained these kids for a whole year and I tried to make their lives easier but they still had to go back to their harsh realities.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2005, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/260 "2005-09-09T05:45:00Z")

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What is it you think you can’t tell us again? I’m lost.

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