# Kyle Rayner1 and his crap about cops

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 4, 2005, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036 "2005-09-04T10:58:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/161 "2005-09-07T22:19:12Z")

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> [@Dag Otto](#):
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> Let’s try to keep this discussion reasonable.

- ::: snort :::\*

_That_ was hopelessly unattainable beginning with the OP of the thread that _spawned_ this thread.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/162 "2005-09-07T22:28:04Z")

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**TYM** , are you unable to distinguish, what to me and I suspect many others, obvious hyperbole? That’s what I read in **Clothahump** ’s post. Maybe I’m wrong and he was being literal, but I doubt it. I don’t think it needs a _Destupidizer[sup]TM[/sup]_. What the board needs is a way for regular users of sarcasm and hyperbole (which I am one) to distinguish themselves as protection from the literalists.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/163 "2005-09-07T22:38:13Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Well, considering the designs of some of the costumed vigilantes get-ups, the Fab Five should have been consulted early in the process. Let’s face it, the QEftSG dudes have much better fashion sense (including having mastered the art of helping straights not looking ‘gay’), and could help the heterosexual hero come up with appropriate, straight-looking, crime-fighting uniforms.

Trust me…it ain’t just the straight heroes with bad costumes. Seen the Pied Piper lately?

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/164 "2005-09-07T22:41:15Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Secondly, if you were a criminal, why would you _not_ be frightened by a fat guy in a toga leaping out of the shadows at you?

John Belushi was a vigilante?

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/165 "2005-09-07T22:42:20Z")

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I go away for a day, and look at this place! _Someone’s_ going to clean up all those doughnuts, and it’s not me!

Just trying to understand why the fuck this is continuing. Unless it’s just so that we can say “fuck”. Because **kylerayner1** has demonstrated that he is a new college freshman with little tolerance for alcohol, no logic, no research skills, and precious little capacity to compose a coherent sentence. And some serious issues concerning the death of his father.

The original thread in GD touched on some serious issues as to morality and the law, with some thoughtful posts by serious contributors. It had the beginnings of a Great Debate. This is just shooting fish in a barrel.

But maybe something good can come from this…

_Move ahead twenty years: A new graphic novel has arrived on the stands._

Panel 1: A pale face emerging from the glow of an old style computer monitor.

Panel 2: Pushes his glasses back. “They mock me. They mock my **FATHER**!”

Panel 3: Sweeps the monitor to the floor.

Panel 4: “It’s time _someone_ did something!”

Panel 5: Floor level view of Kyle from behind, silhouetted against a backlit doorway, illuminating a Dunkin’ Donuts box on the floor. “They’ll know my name soon enough! They’ll know…”

Panel 6: Same view. **"The KYLENATOR!!!"**

Dear God. What have we started?

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/166 "2005-09-07T23:05:56Z")

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> [@Plynck](#):
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> Dear God. What have we started?

Wait 'til he starts trying to swing from buildings.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/167 "2005-09-07T23:08:21Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> - ::: snort :::\*
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> _That_ was hopelessly unattainable beginning with the OP of the thread that _spawned_ this thread.

tom: I think you’re confusing which thread was the prompt for this one. It was Kyle’s responses in Cervaise’s thread, not Kyle’s silly thread about masked crusaders. (The only thing amusing I saw in the latter thread was someone using _sanctimony_ when they meant _sanctity_ regarding a religious rite.)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/168 "2005-09-07T23:21:41Z")

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Slight hijack: When did people start calling “giant comics” “graphic novels?”

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/169 "2005-09-07T23:27:59Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Slight hijack: When did people start calling “giant comics” “graphic novels?”

Will Eisner, creator of [the Spirit](http://www.angelfire.com/art/wildwood/) used the term back in the 70s, I think. I know this thanks to another poster who’s name I can not recall right now.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/170 "2005-09-07T23:41:06Z")

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> [@Plynck](#):
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> Dear God. What have we started?

We’re safe for a while: he has to go and train in a Tibetan monastery for ten years. Anyone want to kick in for airfare?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/171 "2005-09-08T00:09:24Z")

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My curiosity is compelling me to ask this question: Which two posts of Kyle’s in this thread are the most likely candidates for the ones he says he posted while drunk?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/172 "2005-09-08T00:33:20Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> **TYM** , are you unable to distinguish, what to me and I suspect many others, obvious hyperbole? That’s what I read in **Clothahump** ’s post. Maybe I’m wrong and he was being literal, but I doubt it. I don’t think it needs a _Destupidizer[sup]TM[/sup]_. What the board needs is a way for regular users of sarcasm and hyperbole (which I am one) to distinguish themselves as protection from the literalists.

I’ve apparently read more of **Clothahump** ’s posts than you have.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/173 "2005-09-08T00:44:12Z")

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> [@Case Sensitive](#):
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> John Belushi was a vigilante?

I decided that since he’s been dead a while, it was safe to finally reveal his dark secret. I’m surprised somebody as quick as you didn’t figure it out based on the many clues he deliberately embedded in his movie and TV roles.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/174 "2005-09-08T01:02:10Z")

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> [@Plynck](#):
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> Dear God. What have we started?

We’ve unleashed Hell, Plynck. Hell in a toga.

Hold me. I’m scared.

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/175 "2005-09-08T01:43:21Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> My curiosity is compelling me to ask this question: Which two posts of Kyle’s in this thread are the most likely candidates for the ones he says he posted while drunk?

For this question, we need to redefine the definition of “two.”

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/176 "2005-09-08T01:55:16Z")

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> [@Plynck](#):
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> … **kylerayner1** has demonstrated that he is a new college freshman with little tolerance for alcohol, no logic, no research skills, and precious little capacity to compose a coherent sentence.

Anyone want to take bets on whether **Kyle** drops out (or flunks out) before he makes it to sophomore?

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/177 "2005-09-08T02:24:11Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> I decided that since he’s been dead a while, it was safe to finally reveal his dark secret. I’m surprised somebody as quick as you didn’t figure it out based on the many clues he deliberately embedded in his movie and TV roles.

OK, now I’m seeing him as an undead demon rejected from Hell and cast back to this life to right wrongs and punish Illinois Nazis. Like Spawn, only fatter, sporting RayBans and a swirling toga instead of a cape, and more prone to drunken regurgitation. They call him…Spewn.

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**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/178 "2005-09-08T03:25:56Z")

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Monty, did you miss the part where I stated drugs should be legal and a vigilante should not bother with capturing dealers or addicts? Of course I think under age drinking should be legal.

Under-age drinking is just another example to trump up charges against the poor (the rich too but these stupid laws really hit the poor).

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/179 "2005-09-08T03:36:32Z")

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> [@Kyle Rayner1](#):
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> Monty, did you miss the part where I stated drugs should be legal and a vigilante should not bother with capturing dealers or addicts? Of course I think under age drinking should be legal. .

Well, yea, but the problem there is that you want the vigilante to conform to your sense of justice, and inevitably, he’s going to conform to his own sense of justice. In comic book terms, you may want Batman, but you’re going to wind up with Rorschach. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kyle-rayner1-and-his-crap-about-cops/320036/180 "2005-09-08T04:21:28Z")

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> [@Kyle Rayner1](#):
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> Monty, did you miss the part where I stated drugs should be legal and a vigilante should not bother with capturing dealers or addicts?

Didn’t miss it. I was asking about your adherence to the law.

> [@](#):
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> Of course I think under age drinking should be legal.

Ah, but at the moment under-age drinking is illegal.

> [@](#):
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> Under-age drinking is just another example to trump up charges against the poor (the rich too but these stupid laws really hit the poor).

Please be so kind as to provide some proof of these two assertions.

What you really seem to want is someone to go punish those people you think are breaking the laws you approve of but at the same time give you a free pass to do whatever you like.

Look, you think I’m being mean. This is nothing compared to what your professors–and your competent classmates–will do when you pontificate at college as drunkenly and irrationally as you have here.

Someone above posted that to determine which two of your posts are the best candidates for those you posted drunk we would have to redefine the meaning of the word “two.” Every post you’ve made so far as forced that redefinition to include “+1 more.”

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