# L.A. City Council mess **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 12, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125 "2022-10-12T15:52:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/1 "2022-10-12T15:52:33Z")
Splitting off from when this incident was mistakenly put in a pit thread about Republicans: > [@NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/5111): > > The chairwoman of the Los Angeles City Council resigned after her racist comments surfaced. and > [@NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/5140): > > Current reporting has her attacking Jews and Armenians as well during her little rant. Basically, leaders of LA City Council caught on tape disparaging African-American voters, members, and member’s child. This apparently while discussing redistrictings and how to maximize their incumbencies, which itself is business as usual but they chose to fail to weaselword it. A union leader in the conversation already forced out of his job, the Council President leaves that chair but not the council, and Democrats all the way up to Biden calling on them to go. The members involved apparently take the position they have no reason to go. The last council meeting was, er, less than pleasant. One wonders how people keep forgetting that everyone’s on tape today. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/2 "2022-10-12T16:00:39Z")
Their political careers are now dead, dead, dead. They insulted Black people, indigenous Mexicans, Armenians, and Jews. That is a losing combination in Los Angeles. The mayor, governor, and even President Biden have all called for their resignations. Only questions at this point are who taped the conversation and who released it. I’m guessing it’s all internal squabbling among L.A. Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/3 "2022-10-12T16:24:30Z")
And people think that eradicating the Republican Party will lead to a one-party state… 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/4 "2022-10-12T18:34:35Z")
I saw this covered yesterday on PBS Newshour. It looks bad because it rinses-off the sheen that California, and Los Angeles in particular, is a happy salad bowl of diversity. It’s news because what was said was really ugly. Under the surface the different groups in power are working to keep themselves in power and further their agendas - that part is not news. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/5 "2022-10-12T18:52:40Z")
Continuing the proud Republican tradition of having zero understanding of technology. Or civilized society. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/6 "2022-10-12T18:53:43Z")
Um, the bigoted bullshit in this case came from Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/7 "2022-10-12T18:54:27Z")
Yeah them too. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/8 "2022-10-12T19:44:51Z")
I see a serious attitude of political machine entitlement in those officials. As to the L.A. “sheen”, we must remember that a lot of what we think of as “L.A.” is **not** the City of L.A. or is just a media bubble version thereof. And please there is a reason I split this from that other thread. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/9 "2022-10-12T22:29:23Z")
They are white latinos, so it’s not really that surprising, but it proves there is no black- brown coalition. LA has been like this for at least 40 years there was never a sheen on it. Central, South America as well as the Caribbean are really racist, a better word would be colorist. They are hypersensitive to gradients in skin tone and hair texture. The closer a person is to the Eruopean Spanish look the better they are treated. Everyone else is just mixed to some degree, and the less Eruopean traits a person has the worse they are treated. Mexico and Brazil are probably the worst at this colorism. They are however not treated as white in the U.S. for the most part right now, but they see themselves as white. They see themselves as the next Irish or Italians that were also not seen as white at first. I’m actually glad this truth is being exposed. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/10 "2022-10-12T22:39:31Z")
And ISTM a lot of classic Machine-Politician entitlement. We worked to get this power and aren’t sharing it w/o a fight, everyone else better know their place, this town is OURS. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/11 "2022-10-12T22:46:14Z")
That is pretty much exactly what it is, and the easily identified enemy is black people. LA has been like this my whole life and once again I’m 50. Miami is the same way but with Cubans instead. I wasn’t shocked when they voted for Trump and the Republicans. The mindset all goes back to where the slaves where from. But here is the twist, it’s also why a lot of black men voted for Trump in '20. Black men saw the threat, it’s been there for at least 40 years, and Trump was saying he was going to address it by closing the southern border. It was a bull that he would actually do anything, but it sounded good compared to the Democrats saying let them in. I can get really deep into this but I’m just going to say I’m glad the reality is out there now for everyone to see. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/12 "2022-10-12T23:10:36Z")
I’m going to go further and say that I was wrong. I never thought it was open season on black people, but I didn’t want to see the truth. She called a human child a monkey, didn’t even see him as human. She holds power in one of the biggest cites in the U.S. It is truly open season on us. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/13 "2022-10-13T15:55:43Z")
I’m surprised there are any politicians left who don’t assume that they’re being recorded in every conversation. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/14 "2022-10-13T16:04:33Z")
Nury Martinez resigns. > **[Nury Martinez resigns from L.A. City Council in wake of audio leak scandal](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-10-12/la-me-nury-martinez-resigns)** > > "It is with a broken heart that I resign my seat for Council District 6," Nury Martinez wrote in a statement. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/15 "2022-10-13T17:27:59Z")
And even then the hubris of acting on the presumption that nobody will _dare_ expose them. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/16 "2022-10-13T17:38:56Z")
Good. Two more to go. L.A. has a deep bench of Democrats. We can do better. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/17 "2022-10-18T15:01:03Z")
Over the weekend, there were protests against the two council members who not yet resigned. I’m not sure why they haven’t yet. They are no longer welcome among the city power brokers. There’s also talk about increasing the number of council members. The fifteen current members represent 4 million residents of the city. The city had one-tenth that population when that number was set. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-a-city-council-mess/973125/18 "2022-10-18T18:47:19Z")
Even worse is the situation with L.A. County. Five supervisors for a population of almost 10 million. I’ve heard that L.A. County supervisors represent the largest population of any district representative in the US.