# L&O: SVU sucks most royally

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 25, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581 "2009-08-25T01:11:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![audreyayn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@audreyayn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audreyayn)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/21 "2009-08-26T18:48:00Z")

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There was a recent episode of SVU that started with an interesting premise. Someone posted details about how to get into a woman’s apartment on a sex site, saying they were the woman, and she wanted to roleplay a rape scenario. Of course, it wasn’t the woman. A man was basically tricked into raping her, but he still raped her.

So the man who set this up is ranting at a judge, and he quotes some story. Then the judge asks the SVU team to investigate his son’s decades-old abduction and killing. Then the judge kills the guilty party’s father.

It turns out the guilty party is the judge’s supposedly-dead son, and the judge recognized this when the man quoted the story at him. They end the episode with the judge and his son tearfully embracing, and we never find out what happened to the woman or the man who raped her.

WTF, SVU. WTF.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/22 "2009-08-26T19:26:55Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> It drives me crazy when the cops show up to question a witness the day after the murder and the witness just can’t be bothered to stop whatever it is that he/she is currently doing.

I made the exact same comment to my wife the other day. I’m not sure if we were watching L&O:SVU or Bones, both of which are equal offenders in this regard. If the FBI came by my house for _any_ reason, I’d probably drag myself away from my gardening or whatever to at least pretend that I’m paying attention.

Yeah SVU is silly. So is House, so is Bones, so is pretty much every investigative mystery style drama. I’m cool with that.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/23 "2009-08-27T12:14:12Z")

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> [@audreyayn](#):
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> There was a recent episode of SVU that started with an interesting premise. Someone posted details about how to get into a woman’s apartment on a sex site, saying they were the woman, and she wanted to roleplay a rape scenario. Of course, it wasn’t the woman. A man was basically tricked into raping her, but he still raped her.
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> So the man who set this up is ranting at a judge, and he quotes some story. Then the judge asks the SVU team to investigate his son’s decades-old abduction and killing. Then the judge kills the guilty party’s father.
> 
> It turns out the guilty party is the judge’s supposedly-dead son, and the judge recognized this when the man quoted the story at him. They end the episode with the judge and his son tearfully embracing, and we never find out what happened to the woman or the man who raped her.
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> WTF, SVU. WTF.

They seem to be doing a lot of this of late. They try to put two “ripped from the headlines” stories into one episode and it usually falls flat.

I agree with you. They could have done a whole episode about the poor guy who was duped into raping that woman.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/24 "2009-08-27T14:33:29Z")

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> [@fusoya](#):
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> I only watch the show for 2 reasons: Casey Novak and Alex Cabot. And not for their lawyering skills.

I’ll see your Novak and Cabot, and I’ll raise with a [Kim Greylek](http://images.ctv.ca/gallery/photo/svu_s10e01_080930/image0.jpg).

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**Author:** ![kelly5078](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6f9a4e/32.png) [@kelly5078](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kelly5078)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/25 "2009-08-27T15:41:08Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> I only watch for Mariska Hargitay. Her boobs never fall out.

That’s because they’re made of cement.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/26 "2009-08-27T15:55:21Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> They seem to be doing a lot of this of late. They try to put two “ripped from the headlines” stories into one episode and it usually falls flat.
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> I agree with you. They could have done a whole episode about the poor guy who was duped into raping that woman.

Actually, it’s kind of fun for me to figure out what the real headline is behind the Law & Order show. (Someone could do a website that identifies the real story behind each episode.)

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/27 "2009-08-27T16:58:26Z")

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Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed **aldiboronti’s** OP. Very funny, but all too sadly accurate.

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**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/28 "2009-08-27T17:02:33Z")

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Once I got bored with D’Onofrio’s increasing freakiness, I only watched the few CI episodes starring Alicia “Distilled Essence of Hotness” Witt.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/29 "2009-08-27T17:48:17Z")

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I’ll only watch Original Flavor L&O. I’m liking Linus Roache.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/30 "2009-08-27T18:02:06Z")

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> [@Neidhart](#):
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> Once I got bored with D’Onofrio’s increasing freakiness, I only watched the few CI episodes starring Alicia “Distilled Essence of Hotness” Witt.

She is exceedingly easy on the eyes, I agree wholeheartedly. I’m just not completely sold on her being the tought detective.

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/31 "2009-08-27T19:03:41Z")

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> [@Neidhart](#):
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> Once I got bored with D’Onofrio’s increasing freakiness, I only watched the few CI episodes starring Alicia “Distilled Essence of Hotness” Witt.

Let’s not forget Julianne Nicholson. My Lord, that woman is gorgeous.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/32 "2009-08-27T20:10:15Z")

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> [@audreyayn](#):
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> There was a recent episode of SVU that started with an interesting premise. Someone posted details about how to get into a woman’s apartment on a sex site, saying they were the woman, and she wanted to roleplay a rape scenario. Of course, it wasn’t the woman. A man was basically tricked into raping her, but he still raped her.
> 
> So the man who set this up is ranting at a judge, and he quotes some story. Then the judge asks the SVU team to investigate his son’s decades-old abduction and killing. Then the judge kills the guilty party’s father.
> 
> It turns out the guilty party is the judge’s supposedly-dead son, and the judge recognized this when the man quoted the story at him. They end the episode with the judge and his son tearfully embracing, and we never find out what happened to the woman or the man who raped her.
> 
> WTF, SVU. WTF.

That episode put an end to my fandom. I wrote a whole [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=518419) about it.

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**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/33 "2009-08-28T01:48:38Z")

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> [@Saintly\_Loser](#):
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> Let’s not forget Julianne Nicholson. My Lord, that woman is gorgeous.

And Annabella Sciorra

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/34 "2009-08-28T02:35:33Z")

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Does anyone else think the Munch and Finn episodes were much, much more interesting? At one point, SVU wasn’t “The Benson and Stabler Show.” Munch and Finn are maybe imperfect people, but they are also much more human than the one-dimensional B/S tag team.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/35 "2009-08-28T03:07:18Z")

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> [@Saintly\_Loser](#):
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> Let’s not forget Julianne Nicholson. My Lord, that woman is gorgeous.

Not on L&O she’s not. They make [her](http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/47/09/0000034709_20061021012202.jpg) look like [Ron Howard](http://nohway.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/1-opie.jpg).

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/36 "2009-08-28T13:27:02Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> I’ll only watch Original Flavor L&O. I’m liking Linus Roache.

I like him but he is in a thankless role given the quality of writing these days. McCoy and him at odds could be written so much better.

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**Author:** ![Weaver\_of\_Nightmares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@Weaver\_of\_Nightmares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weaver_of_Nightmares)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/37 "2009-08-28T15:34:30Z")

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I don’t watch much SVU because Stabler always annoys the living snot out of me. I hatehatehate the man.

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**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/38 "2009-08-28T15:38:13Z")

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> [@zagloba](#):
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> And Annabella Sciorra

I generally like Annabella Sciorra, but I hated her character on CI. I really don’t know why, but she came off as a drip…

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**Author:** ![omni-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8dc957/32.png) [@omni-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omni-not)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/39 "2009-08-28T17:01:05Z")

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_La crème de la crème_ of the **L&O** franchise:

**Law and Order: UK**  
Solid cast, solid scripts, solid direction. I’ve been hooked since Episode One.

You’ll **never** go back to _SVU_: guaranteed.

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**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/l-o-svu-sucks-most-royally/507581/40 "2009-08-28T23:18:13Z")

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I was never much of a Kim Greylek fan. But now that Alex is back to stay, I’m gonna have to give this show one more season.

L&O’s “go away, we got bigger problems” shifting of investigations always got on my nerves. If we’re LUCKY, we’ll get a throwaway “oh btw, XXXX rapist is going away for 20 to life and YYYY just passed away in the hospital” in the last scene. It especially annoys me in SVU when the second, bigger case which comes along is still being investigated by Benson & Stabler, even when the new case has absolutely NOTHING to do with special victim crimes. The episode with the monkey smugglers comes to mind.

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