# LA Homeless

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 7, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149 "2019-06-07T00:40:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/1 "2019-06-07T00:40:40Z")

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I’m not big on pitting stuff but this story: [Staggering homeless count stuns LA officials](https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/05/politics/los-angeles-homeless-count/index.html) just irks me. Everyday I read about rich Hollywood stars and their lifestyle. Hell, there was just a story of Tracy Morgan buying a $2M dollar car. And yet, this homeless situation in LA. Makes me sick, especially when people can’t wait to go see a movie, entertainment!, that cost $1B or whatever to make and makes billions.

There is no way that Hollywood is “liberal” or actually cares about people less fortunate than them. I wish they would just stop trying to pretend that they are.

Also, fuck, shit, piss.

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/2 "2019-06-07T00:44:58Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Everyday I read about rich Hollywood stars and their lifestyle.

Why? Personally I avoid that and usually don’t have difficulty doing so.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/3 "2019-06-07T00:47:24Z")

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> [@Covfefe](#):
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> Why? Personally I avoid that and usually don’t have difficulty doing so.

I don’t read “People” or anything. But there is one page in the free newspaper that the Washington Post gives out on the metro that has stories of that type.

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/4 "2019-06-07T00:51:54Z")

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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLqKXrlD1TU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLqKXrlD1TU)

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/5 "2019-06-07T02:30:46Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I’m not big on pitting stuff but this story: [Staggering homeless count stuns LA officials](https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/05/politics/los-angeles-homeless-count/index.html) just irks me. Everyday I read about rich Hollywood stars and their lifestyle. Hell, there was just a story of Tracy Morgan buying a $2M dollar car. And yet, this homeless situation in LA. Makes me sick, especially when people can’t wait to go see a movie, entertainment!, that cost $1B or whatever to make and makes billions.
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> There is no way that Hollywood is “liberal” or actually cares about people less fortunate than them. I wish they would just stop trying to pretend that they are.
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> Also, fuck, shit, piss.

Why would they stop pretending when it’s profitable?

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/6 "2019-06-07T03:02:37Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I don’t read “People” or anything. But there is one page in the free newspaper that the Washington Post gives out on the metro that has stories of that type.

Do you like movies? Is that why you take more interest in these people than others out there who also immerse themselves in frivolous luxuries while disconnected from the downtrodden?

It’s honestly foreign to me. I was rarely allowed to watch movies as a child and have never gotten much into them or why these people’s opinions are rationally considered consequential beyond the fact that, like those others their money can influence political clout.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/7 "2019-06-07T03:05:13Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I’m not big on pitting stuff but this story: [Staggering homeless count stuns LA officials](https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/05/politics/los-angeles-homeless-count/index.html) just irks me. Everyday I read about rich Hollywood stars and their lifestyle. Hell, there was just a story of Tracy Morgan buying a $2M dollar car.

With that kind of capital, he could’ve eradicated homelessness by giving every indigent person in Los Angeles $33.89. What a dick!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/8 "2019-06-07T03:47:10Z")

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To be fair to Mr. Morgan, he _is_ in NYC…

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/9 "2019-06-07T04:43:01Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> To be fair to Mr. Morgan, he _is_ in NYC…

That doesn’t fit the whining narrative, though, so we’ll just ignore it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/10 "2019-06-07T04:52:34Z")

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One question for OP: Why did that guy pay two million bucks for a dollar car?

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**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/11 "2019-06-07T05:35:49Z")

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How much celebrity money would it take to solve LA’s homelessness problem?

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/12 "2019-06-07T06:00:16Z")

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Around $381 million.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/13 "2019-06-07T06:23:47Z")

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manson1972, you seem to be starting with the assumption that because you read a lot about rich actors, they must be the richest people in the U.S. First, actors aren’t even the richest people in the film production business. Here’s an article giving average annual incomes for various professions in the film business:

> **[Here’s How Much Everyone Gets Paid on a Movie Set — From the Key Grip to the...](https://money.com/movie-jobs-how-much-get-paid-actors/)**
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> The bigger the movie, the bigger the salaries.

Furthermore, the average annual incomes for people in the film business aren’t the richest for any business. There are lots of jobs with higher average annual incomes. Here are some:

> **[The 25 highest-paying jobs in America](https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/26/the-25-highest-paying-jobs-in-america.html)**
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> Want to earn the big bucks? Here's where the money's at.

If you really want to make a huge amount of money, become the CEO of one of the top 500 companies:

> **[The Average CEO Makes as Much Money in One Day as the Typical Worker Earns in...](https://money.com/ceo-pay-afl-cio/)**
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> At Weight Watchers, the chief makes 6,000 times more than the average worker.

The people you read a lot about are not the richest people. The richest people try to stay out of the news. Here’s the Forbes list of the richest people in the U.S. Note how few are connected with the film industry:

> **[The Forbes 400 2022](https://www.forbes.com/forbes-400/)**
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> The Forbes 400 is the definitive list of the richest Americans, ranking the country’s wealthiest billionaires by their net worths.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/14 "2019-06-07T06:29:50Z")

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The fault is not with Hollywood but with all of us.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/15 "2019-06-07T12:20:59Z")

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> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
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> manson1972, you seem to be starting with the assumption that because you read a lot about rich actors, they must be the richest people in the U.S. First, actors aren’t even the richest people in the film production business. Here’s an article giving average annual incomes for various professions in the film business:
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> [Movie Jobs: How Much Do Film Industry Workers Get Paid? | Money](http://money.com/money/4965728/movie-jobs-how-much-get-paid-actors/)
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> Furthermore, the average annual incomes for people in the film business aren’t the richest for any business. There are lots of jobs with higher average annual incomes. Here are some:
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> [https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/26/the-25-highest-paying-jobs-in-america.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/26/the-25-highest-paying-jobs-in-america.html)
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> If you really want to make a huge amount of money, become the CEO of one of the top 500 companies:
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> [CEOs Took One Day to Earn What US Workers Earn in a Year | Money](http://money.com/money/5287123/ceo-pay-afl-cio/)
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> The people you read a lot about are not the richest people. The richest people try to stay out of the news. Here’s the Forbes list of the richest people in the U.S. Note how few are connected with the film industry:
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> [Forbes 400 2023](https://www.forbes.com/forbes-400/list/)

I don’t assume they are the richest people in the US. I assume they are of the liberal persuasion, since they espouse those ideals on TV and such. Instead of glamourous shots of actors at swank parties and red carpets, how about photos of them at the LA homeless camp actually doing something?

If they don’t want to do anything, or don’t actually care, then fine. But don’t act like they do.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/16 "2019-06-07T12:22:00Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> One question for OP: Why did that guy pay two million bucks for a dollar car?

Because he’s stupid?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/17 "2019-06-07T13:10:00Z")

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Reasonable pitting. IMO it’s always reasonable to pit rich people if/when they’re not doing enough to help those suffering around them.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/18 "2019-06-07T13:18:40Z")

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Incidentally, Tracy Morgan is only worth $12 million, so spending $2 million on a car was ridiculous. (You’re going to say that that’s still a lot of money. 1.07% of Americans are worth more than $10 million. 0.07% are worth more than $50 million.) Let me correct one other thing in the OP. No movie has ever cost $1 billion to make. The most one has cost is $412 million. You should learn about how much money is thrown around in businesses other than entertainment.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/19 "2019-06-07T13:22:00Z")

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Also, the fact that some actors and other entertainers talk publicly about liberal causes doesn’t mean that they are all liberal. A lot of entertainers are conservatives. They just don’t go out of their way to discuss it.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/la-homeless/835149/20 "2019-06-07T13:27:49Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> If they don’t want to do anything, or don’t actually care, then fine. But don’t act like they do.

Is the assumption that because the homeless still exist in Los Angeles that none of these so-called liberal actors are doing nothing to address the situation? How do you know that they’re not? Perhaps they advocate for changes in government policies and programs to address the issue. Perhaps they contribute to programs that address the issue. Who knows? Certainly not you.

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