# Ladies: Do you have a prominent clavicle? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 16, 2002, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421 "2002-05-16T18:36:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![auntie\_em](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@auntie\_em](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auntie_em)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/1 "2002-05-16T18:36:43Z")
It’s fascinating to me. Have you ever noticed how in magazines and on TV (two forms of media guaranteed to reflect the truth) most of the female celebs have really prominent collarbones? Well, I don’t. So I started asking around to see if it was just me. Turns out that one of my friends uses her clavicle to gauge whether or not she needs to lose weight. If it starts to disappear… it’s Slim Fast for her! Also, she considers a prominent collarbone one of the most attractive features on a woman. Similarly, most of my female friends who don’t have movie star-quality collarbones are the same ones who are trying to lose weight (though I don’t know that they’ve ever connected the weight issue to their collarbones per se)… I, meanwhile, am about 3 pounds shy of my “ideal weight”, supposedly, and am certainly not looking to lose any… yet I’ve got the Great Plains going on between my neck, comparatively… no clavicle peaks, points, or valleys. Does this mean merely that I’m built differently from the celebs whose collarbones I happen to notice (for example, Ashley Judd wearing an evening gown in _Double Jeopardy_), kind of like how some people have high arches and others have flat feet? Or are they all just wayyyyyyyyyy underweight? Are their collarbone building exercises? Do YOU have a prominent collarbone? Share. ---
**Author:** ![easy\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb8c5e/32.png) [@easy\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/easy_e)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/2 "2002-05-16T19:09:14Z")
Well, I don’t know about prominent, but I think that seeing them (especially if I’m wearing a tanktop) is kinda nifty. Sometimes I will hunch my shoulders when I look at myself in the mirror (because it makes them more visible), but then I end up looking like a hunchback. I haven’t had to do that much since I moved to this state–partly because it’s not quite nice enough for tank tops yet, and partly because I’ve been losing weight. I think they’re more visible if a woman has a fine bone structure. I don’t–I like to say I come from peasant stock. Here’s my version of your “Great Plains”. You know the back of the ankle, and how on most normal people, the Achilles tendon is rather prominent? There’s little flesh on either side of it, so it seems to stick out? Well, I don’t have that, and I always wanted it to show. ---
**Author:** ![Venoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@Venoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Venoma)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/3 "2002-05-16T19:15:03Z")
I do have quite a prominent clavicle. I’m also built a bit like an amazon - big long bones, tend to be muscly, but I’m on the skinny side… for now. (and on the upside, I wouldn’t NEED to cut one of my tits off to shoot straight. Gotta be a silver lining in there somewhere, right!) ---
**Author:** ![easy\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb8c5e/32.png) [@easy\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/easy_e)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/4 "2002-05-16T19:28:16Z")
**Venoma** –that’s exactly what I was trying to get across. Maybe I should ditch the “peasant stock” think and go with Amazon instead. ---
**Author:** ![Spritle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Spritle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spritle)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/5 "2002-05-16T19:29:52Z")
I’ve mentioned this many times before to the Mrs. I find women much more attractive if they **don’t** have the prominent collarbone. Maybe because I’ve broken mine twice. I guess my sub-conscious looks at the lady as being gaunt. I dunno. ---
**Author:** ![Romola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e36b37/32.png) [@Romola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Romola)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/6 "2002-05-16T19:43:43Z")
I’m one of the “fine bone structure” people, but I also have rather wide shoulders (for a small girl), so when I’m very thin (-120’s) my collarbone is extremely prominent; think Audrey Hepburn prominent, sharp enough to cut. I can tell if I’ve gained weight by how noticeable my collarbones are. I’m about 130 now and they are still obvious, but not so cavernous or bony. My mother and sister are “Amazon” types; taller, heavier muscle, bigger bones, and their collarbones are not noticeable. I suppose to many people they are attractive, but when mine jut out, I tend to look like a Cardassian. If I were to venture a guess, whether the clavicle is prominent or not has to do with bone structure and weight. ---
**Author:** ![Tansu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@Tansu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tansu)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/7 "2002-05-16T21:00:31Z")
I did when I was skinny, and I quite liked it. It’s less visible now However, I now have soft hips and real actual breasts. I think I got a good deal. ---
**Author:** ![auntie\_em](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@auntie\_em](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auntie_em)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/8 "2002-05-16T21:18:51Z")
Well, in that case I got cheated–I don’t have boobies OR a collar-bone (unless I do the pose that **easy e** mentioned)! It’s interesting that in one post, the prominent clavicle is attributed to Amazon-esque body structure, and in another, it’s attributed to a smaller-boned structure. I think I would be more likely to attribute it to the latter if I had to choose, but I think it’s just a matter of the draw. I obviously forgot to get into the Clavicle Line (instead, I got in the Body Hair line _twice_). ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/9 "2002-05-16T21:24:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by easy e \* > \*\*Here’s my version of your “Great Plains”. You know the back of the ankle, and how on most normal people, the Achilles tendon is rather prominent? There’s little flesh on either side of it, so it seems to stick out? Well, I don’t have that, and I always wanted it to show. \*\* I WANT that ankle look! I looked at my prom pics from high school to see if I ever had that. I was a size 6 then and wanted to know if I ever had that (I’m a size 10 now). I never did. For what it’s worth, though, I’ve seen the ankle thing you described on heavier women with skinny legs. My collarbones aren’t very prominent. One can tell they’re there but they’re not very noticeable. ---
**Author:** ![EchoKitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@EchoKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EchoKitty)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/10 "2002-05-16T21:26:20Z")
I’m very fine-boned and thin (105 lbs, which is actually my almost top weight of my life) and I have boobs, and my clavicles stick out like railroad ties. I like how they look. Most men say they like that look, but I don’t think I could do anything about it if it wasn’t attractive. They’re just prominent! ---
**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/11 "2002-05-16T21:37:21Z")
I have a large frame and I have boobs and my clavicles are visible but not at all prominent. My breastbone is somewhat prominent (I mean, you can see where it is, my chest is not flat because the breastbone is there), which I noticed last night while drying off after a bath (there’s a full-length mirror in the bathroom; I don’t know why my mother does this to me). I then spent most of the evening obsessing over the fact that I have a prominent breastbone. Oh well, it’s less prominent than my actual breasts so I guess I’m ok. ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/12 "2002-05-16T22:09:24Z")
I came to read, not to comment but couldn’t resist. Unlike Spritle, I have a _thing_ for prominent collar bones (and being that you mentioned them; high arches too!). For all I know it’s an internal defense mechanism, because my collar bones are prominent (to the point I could play percussion on them) and hence unmasculine. I probably seek out those similar features so I’m not self conscious of them. ---
**Author:** ![Dagny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@Dagny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dagny)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/13 "2002-05-16T22:12:01Z")
I’ve got a prominent clavicle. I’m also small and have to shop in the girls department. Not sure if the two are related or not. I’ve never really notticed the usage of the clavicle in the media. But I don’t nottice alot of things. ---
**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/14 "2002-05-16T23:00:03Z")
I don’t. I have clavicle envy. ---
**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2002, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/15 "2002-05-17T00:47:39Z")
I have the ankle thing and the high arches, but my clavicle just showed up after spending the last few months working out. I’ve also acquired these little knott-like muscles between my neck and shoulders that help hold my brastraps up since I have small shoulders. ---
**Author:** ![Burnt\_Sugar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee59a6/32.png) [@Burnt\_Sugar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Burnt_Sugar)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2002, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/16 "2002-05-17T01:43:04Z")
Well, I’m little, 158cm and 50kgs. I have no breasts (as in I can’t fill an A cup), but I definately have hips. I am also very muscley for a girl. As a result of this, I think i look quite weird. Sorry about being OT. My calvicle is not very prominent, but that is the leastof my worries! ---
**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2002, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/17 "2002-05-17T01:54:40Z")
I’m 5’3" and about 110 lbs, medium boobs, I’m very thin in my arms, shoulders and neck, and my collarbone is pretty noticable now that I thought to look at it. I’m usually too concerned about what my ass looks like in something to be thinking about the bones in my chest. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![easy\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb8c5e/32.png) [@easy\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/easy_e)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2002, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/18 "2002-05-17T03:28:18Z")
Okay, not to hijack the discussion too much, but I love threads like this. They let me know that I’m not the only person who notices things like this and is both amused and fascinated by them. ---
**Author:** ![Redboss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8baadc/32.png) [@Redboss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redboss)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2002, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/19 "2002-05-17T05:01:23Z")
**easy e** Oh, how I agree with you. These simple, honest and interesting little threads are an important part of the richness of these Boards. And goodness, I do like **auntie em** ’s posting style. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by auntie em \* > \*\*I obviously forgot to get into the Clavicle Line (instead, I got in the Body Hair line _twice_). \*\* hehehehe (but don’t interpret this as a request for more information, will ya) Redboss ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2002, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421/20 "2002-05-17T05:31:53Z")
Let’s see, bit bigger than average boobs, higher % of muscle than most women, mediumly prominant clavical. When I was in high school, my clavicals stuck out enough to hang a clothes hanger on, as did my hip bones. I’m about the same _size_ now, but my body composition has a lot more muscle, hence, less defined clavical. When I flex my traps, the clavical shoots right out though. 😃 Ok, well not like out of my _SKIN_ or anything, it just shows more… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-do-you-have-a-prominent-clavicle/109421.md?page=2)