# Ladies! FIGHT gay marriage!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 25, 2009, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929 "2009-06-25T13:48:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/41 "2009-06-26T00:40:27Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> I’m having a difficult time finding an argument against this, as well.

Forget [this one](http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=teen+pregnancy&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=)?

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/42 "2009-06-26T01:41:44Z")

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> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#):
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> The claim was that both homophobia and slut shaming are caused by straight men who are upset that they have to work so hard to get laid, while women and gay men can easily find sexual partners. So straight men lash out at those who have it easier than they do.

Add to this the fact that gays don’t have to worry about unwanted pregnancy, so there’s this suspicion that gay sex is that much more fun/easier/less stressful than straight sex. Until AIDS, there really was no down side, if that was your cup of tea. I think the malicious glee displayed in some quarters about all those promiscuous, disgusting gays getting AIDS, and the lack of initiative in admitting it was a health crisis and taking action, may have been rooted in this weird, spiteful jealousy people have towards gays. They seemed to feel that AIDS was their time to pay the piper for all that enviable, dirty no-strings-attached sex. A revolting attitude towards a public health crisis, of course, but there it is.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/43 "2009-06-26T02:39:03Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Actually, the quoted idiot’s claims about Rome are probably taken out of context, anyway. Greece was know by the Romans for its man-boy associations and The Lysistrata was clearly Greek, (from Ari, natch).

True…and Lysistrata is all about women witholding sex to get men to stop fighting. IIRC, the men don’t seize on the solution of simply embracing each other.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/44 "2009-06-26T03:37:40Z")

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> [@BlinkingDuck](#):
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> Hey! That’s why I support it!
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> 😃
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> Lesbianism should be banned though…

I think that’s spelled \*boned \* ,… and I agree.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/45 "2009-06-26T03:39:25Z")

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> [@cosmosdan](#):
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> I think that’s spelled \*boned \* ,… and I agree.

I think you don’t really understand what lesbianism is. Yeah, I know you’re joking. Ha. Ha. Ha.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/46 "2009-06-26T04:15:38Z")

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There is a definite trend in these kind of ravings. I remember when Ted haggard was admonishing wives/mothers with “do you know where your husband/children are right now? They could be out having gay sex!” (not actual quote, but something similar).

At the time I heard it I was thinking, “What the hell is this gut on about!? Does he think that everyone has some secret desire to go out and have gay sex?” Well, as it turned out, and not surprisingly, someone DID have that secret desire, didn’t they.

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/47 "2009-06-26T05:05:34Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Because they’re cootie-free, that’s why.

And they don’t fill your house with unnecessary pillows. Why is there so many pillows in my house?! I only got one head!

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**Author:** ![AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/48 "2009-06-26T06:01:04Z")

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> there won’t be any left for the women, who will be sexually unsatisfied since two women together don’t have a penis to use!

Someone should definitly tell my girlfriend and I about this…LOL.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/49 "2009-06-26T06:33:57Z")

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Maybe the prevalence of lesbianism is just the Goddess’ way of ensuring the survival of the Big Hairy Bathroom Spider.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/50 "2009-06-26T15:31:02Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> Forget [this one](http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=teen+pregnancy&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=)?

Well, okay, yeah, but how can a little thing like that be more important than the urgent need to save men from the overpowering and near-irrestible temptation of gay sex? Most large societies with declining or negative population growth have stopped treating women as sex objects who exist for no other purpose but to satisfy male urges at need (and to clean things) - could this be coincidence? I don’t think so!

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/51 "2009-06-26T15:33:39Z")

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I’m a bit disappointed in Beliefnet. They used to have a decent Jewish blog, but now they have this guy instead.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/52 "2009-06-26T16:02:13Z")

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> [@Anne\_Neville](#):
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> I’m a bit disappointed in Beliefnet. They used to have a decent Jewish blog, but now they have this guy instead.

They still do. Brad Hirschfield appears to be very thoughtful and thorough. They’ve just balanced it out with a social conservative who exemplifies the maxim that a little learning is a dangerous thing.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/53 "2009-06-26T16:15:36Z")

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Based on my extensive research, I conclude that any woman is only two glasses of chardonnay away from hot girl-on-girl action. Did I mention that my primary research material is Cinemax?

Also, a really funny joke is to tell a lesbian that you can’t understand why she’s gay, because she’s attractive enough to appeal to a man. You won’t believe how badly lesbians take a compliment.

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**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/54 "2009-06-26T16:20:34Z")

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Penis, schmenis. We’re all people.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/55 "2009-06-26T16:39:14Z")

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> [@lisacurl](#):
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> Penis, schmenis. We’re all people.

Surprisingly, some people still draw gender-based distinctions about people they choose to have sex with. Notably, few men try to stick their schmenis into the vagina of another man.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/56 "2009-06-26T16:56:33Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> Surprisingly, some people still draw gender-based distinctions about people they choose to have sex with. Notably, few men try to stick their schmenis into the vagina of another man.

Shouldn’t that be “schmagina of another man”?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/57 "2009-06-26T17:03:54Z")

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I know its old fashioned, but I really like effeminate women.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/58 "2009-06-26T17:06:24Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I know its old fashioned, but I really like effeminate women.

Clearly you just haven’t met the right effeminate _man_ yet.

(Operating under the premise of the thread that the cock is irresistable, I mean.)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/59 "2009-06-26T17:11:57Z")

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My mom went to U Tex, lived in a dorm with one set of showers per floor. She left after a year, writing to my grandmother “If I have my way, I’ll never have to look at another naked woman as long as I live.”

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-fight-gay-marriage/500929/60 "2009-06-27T00:03:08Z")

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What gives some conservatives the idea that deep inside all men want to have hot, steamy, oily, all-night-long, man-on-man sex?

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