# ladies- some advice on "hot or not"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 11, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757 "2004-06-11T02:02:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_You_Big_Red_Fire_Engine)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/21 "2004-06-11T15:28:16Z")

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Well then I guess none of you have seen my competition 😉 Damn Elle Macpherson and all those other hot Australian girls :mad:

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/22 "2004-06-11T15:53:52Z")

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I think bitchy girls go on there and give the hot girls one’s because they’re jealous. That’s why some very attractive ladies have lower scores.

I’m not on there btw, so I’m not talking about myself. 😃

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/23 "2004-06-11T16:57:36Z")

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> [@Shaolinrabbit](#):
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> Well, I think you’re genuinely hot. Although I suppose by definition that would make me another guy who wants to get in your pants 😃

Line forms to the right. Please secure all hats and glasses. This ride may not be safe if you have had recent surgery or a history of back problems. You must be at least as tall as Pluto to ride.

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**Author:** ![SanguineSpider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SanguineSpider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanguineSpider)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/24 "2004-06-11T17:49:58Z")

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Ohhhhhhh! Silly me… :smack: this is a _flirt_ thread. Oh, gosh, don’t I feel like a bumpkin.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/25 "2004-06-11T18:09:53Z")

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> [@SanguineSpider](#):
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> Ohhhhhhh! Silly me… :smack: this is a _flirt_ thread. Oh, gosh, don’t I feel like a bumpkin.

No, no, **Sanguine**. Back when we posted, it was a “make fun of **DrDeth** ’s silly OP” thread. It only became a flirt thread after that.

Clearly we did such a good job in those two posts that there was nothing left for anyone else to do but flirt. Yeah, that’s it!

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/26 "2004-06-11T18:14:54Z")

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> [@SanguineSpider](#):
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> Ohhhhhhh! Silly me… :smack: this is a _flirt_ thread. Oh, gosh, don’t I feel like a bumpkin.

Well, it seems to have to turned into one, anyway.

So, uh, **Sanguine** …how _you_ doin’? 😉

Note to my wonderful wife, the most beautiful woman on the face of the Earth, who I love more than anything imaginable, and who is bound to find her way into this thread: _It was a joke!_😛

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/27 "2004-06-11T18:23:21Z")

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> [@bittersweet](#):
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> \<toots own horn\>  
> You know, kinda like [this](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=NUO8GZN&key=GDX).  
> \</ends toot\>

That really you? ::checks location:: Cool.

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**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/28 "2004-06-11T19:12:29Z")

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> [@Go You Big Red Fire Engine](#):
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> Yes? 😕 That was my understanding of the situation. The best I got was an 8 from a guy that _wanted_ to get in my pants.

Well, I’ll give you a 9, at least. (I don’t give out many 10’s.) And (despite my comments about genital piercings in another thread), I don’t want to get into your pants.

And I’m giving fair warning ahead of time: I will electronically bitch-slap anyone who denigrates small breasts. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/29 "2004-06-11T20:41:03Z")

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In defense of “DrDeth’s silly OP” we are talking about a website where people voluntarily post their picture so people can judge their physical attractiveness. So opinions on how to post a better looking picture are appropriate. It’s not like he was telling people to spice up their pictures on the Straight Dope photo gallery.

And bittersweet and Engine are both fine looking women.

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**Author:** ![1010011010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ea666f/32.png) [@1010011010](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1010011010)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/30 "2004-06-11T21:12:40Z")

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I’d wager at least 50% of the photos on HoN are not posted by the people in the picture. Post a good picture of your boy or girlfriend, find out how they rate, feel better about yourself, etc. Post a bad picture of your xB or xGF, find out how they rate, feel better about yourself, etc.

Some people will also post different personal pictures under different accounts… and the same picture under different accounts… presumably to get an average vote, larger sample, some weird intuitive statistics thing.  
So I understand why there are some really just plain bad pictures on Hot or Not… fuzzy, too dark, of ugly people, etc… they’re the only pictures _of someone else_ that the poster has… or they’re posting their [bad pictures](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=NSNSSSB&key=UYL), too, to get a realistic response.

The only thing that really annoys me is when people have this itty bitty picture… and an 8x10 area of white space. Most photoeditors have a crop function. Use it.  
Or, fill up that huge white space with other pictures of yourself.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/31 "2004-06-11T21:47:34Z")

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[hijack]  
I barely read past **Giraffe** ’s post, but just wanted to give :wally , 🙂 , and ;j a chance to represent. There, all the smilies have been used in this thread. You can go about your business, and remember, No Smilie Left Behind.  
[/hijack]

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**Author:** ![SanguineSpider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SanguineSpider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanguineSpider)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/32 "2004-06-12T00:54:32Z")

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I’m feelin’ rather contrary today… I’m annoyed but not sure why, and I’m a wee bit sentimental and missin’ my hunnybunny. And I’m pissed at the bank, super-A bomb pissed… “I’m in the red!” and no one understands me until I explain myself in overly verbose and lengthy ways, and I’m tired of talking. :sigh:

I really hate glitter!!!

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**Author:** ![pervert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbe5ce/32.png) [@pervert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pervert)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/33 "2004-06-12T01:50:19Z")

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> [@SanguineSpider](#):
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> I really hate glitter!!!

Your other complaints sound inconsequential next to this one. I hate glitter also. Dang glitter. Dang it to heck! :mad:

Just for the record, size is unimportant. Application is what maters. How are they used, not how big are they.

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/34 "2004-06-12T04:15:48Z")

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I think those types of sites are really sad. If you’re really good looking, you just want to hear people say it all day long. If you’re ugly, you just want to hear people say you’re good looking all day long.

That’s what really matters, hot, or not. More shallow than the Marlboro man’s last breath.

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**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/35 "2004-06-12T05:37:03Z")

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Hot or Not is… interesting. I recall it in its early days, when it was very hard for anyone to get a rating over 5 or 6, even extremely attractive model-types. Since the site has gained in popularity they seem to have tweaked the rating/averaging system so that it’s much easier to get a score over 7.

Presumedly this would be in order to stroke egos a bit in an attempt to make more people stick around on the site, making it more popular, but for me at least it has the brow-raising effect of causing some people I find to be (cough) [not really all that attractive\*](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=OYSMRLH&key=QAX) to be ranked higher than [myself](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=OLN8BSG&key=LUT). ☹

- phrasing diluted in the unlikely event that linked photo belongs to a Doper. If you’re reading this, lady, I’m sure it was just a bad angle or something, kay? Those cheap little webcams make everyone look older, too. Please do not come after me.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/36 "2004-06-12T13:10:41Z")

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> [@stately plump buck mulligan](#):
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> Presumedly this would be in order to stroke egos a bit in an attempt to make more people stick around on the site, making it more popular, but for me at least it has the brow-raising effect of causing some people I find to be (cough) [not really all that attractive\*](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=OYSMRLH&key=QAX) to be ranked higher than [myself](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=OLN8BSG&key=LUT). ☹

Based on your username alone, I would expect the first photo to be of you and the second to be of some mystical stranger. Whatever, the second woman is H-O-T.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/37 "2004-06-12T14:12:09Z")

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> [@stately plump buck mulligan](#):
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> …but for me at least it has the brow-raising effect of causing some people I find to be (cough) [not really all that attractive\*](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=OYSMRLH&key=QAX)…

Oh, geez…Maaaa! What’d I tell you about these things?

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/38 "2004-06-12T14:37:09Z")

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I didn’t realize I was hanging out with such beautiful ladies, if you all will accept a compliment from a dirty old man.

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**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/39 "2004-06-12T23:17:05Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> I didn’t realize I was hanging out with such beautiful ladies, if you all will accept a compliment from a dirty old man.

Why thank you good sir. _flutters eyelashes_

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**Author:** ![Papaveraceae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e8c25b/32.png) [@Papaveraceae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Papaveraceae)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/40 "2004-06-12T23:57:28Z")

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> [@stately plump buck mulligan](#):
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> [myself](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=OLN8BSG&key=LUT). ☹

Wow. You’re quite hot, if I do say so myself.

I would personally never put a picture of myself up on the site. It seems the fat girls don’t get much love even when they are complete dolls. :dubious:

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