# ladies- some advice on "hot or not" **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 11, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757 "2004-06-11T02:02:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/41 "2004-06-13T04:44:35Z")
I don’t have the balls to post a linkety link to my pic. I’m embarassed to even admit I put one on there (I’d never admit it to anyone IRL). None of ya’ll know me on here, though, so it doesn’t matter. But yeah, **Papa** , you’re right. I’ve never seen a fat girl with a high score, no matter HOW pretty she is (I’m fat and I _KNOW_ I am much better looking than my score suggests). Likewise I’ve seen some REALLY skanky looking girls with scores near 10. Which brings me to another issue: what’s with all the people with scores near 10? Nobody is a 10 unless they’ve been touched up on a computer. I think raters tend to go for the stereotypical standards of beauty: blonde hair, big tits, young, skinny, preferably half naked. The more you deviate from the standard, the lower the score will be, it seems. Oh well. It’s just a website, right? ---
**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/42 "2004-06-13T05:22:52Z")
I’ve seen quite a few very pretty girls who are not exactly skinny get scores of 8 or above, which is a good score. [Here](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=KZKZGSB&key=QVY) [are](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=GMAYGZB&key=KKT)[just](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=G8KLEQE&key=MHF) [a](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=GUK8BRH&key=DBJ) [few](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=OMBQKQO&key=LYY), plus I’m _cough_ not a stick figure myself and my score is fairly up there, as you can see. So I suppose it’s possible to pack some extra pounds and still score well on hotornot (disclaimer: not that it matters), but, as is the case in the real world, seems like you’d better have a helluva face to “make up for it”. ---
**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/43 "2004-06-13T05:33:09Z")
??? None of the girls you linked to are fat. Three of them could be called voluptuous, yes, but fat? No. I might add that those three have cleavage out to Kalamazoo, which probably helped their scores a bit. I’m baffled why you’d describe the 2nd and 3rd girls you linked to as “not exactly skinny.” #2 _is_ skinny and #3 is as normal as it gets. ---
**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/44 "2004-06-13T06:04:30Z")
> [@Abbie Carmichael](#): > > ??? > > None of the girls you linked to are fat. Three of them could be called voluptuous, yes, but fat? No. I might add that those three have cleavage out to Kalamazoo, which probably helped their scores a bit. > > I’m baffled why you’d describe the 2nd and 3rd girls you linked to as “not exactly skinny.” #2 _is_ skinny and #3 is as normal as it gets. Well, I really was looking for some “legitimately” heavy girls whose scores I could check, but there are very few to be found on the site, probably due to the same fears you expressed. I’ve seen the personal website of #2 sometime in the distant past and can vouch for the fact that she is at least voluptuous, but you’re right, she looks thin from that angle. #3 is certainly normal but I guess I just included her because, while **I** find her very attractive, I hadn’t at all expected that hotornot’s usual rating pool would agree with me to such an extent. You know, all this discussion becomes kind of moot when you consider that a vast, vast majority of visitors to the site simply scroll through the pictures by clicking the same score - usually 1 or 5 - over and over, occasionally making the effort to haul the mouse over to the far right to vote a 10 on one of those skinny blonde bombshells. ---
**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/45 "2004-06-13T06:08:46Z")
I must admit I’m guilty of the same score thing too. Not always, of course. But if I see a pic and someone is attractive, but not wildly so (about 80% of the people on the site), they get a 7. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/46 "2004-06-13T07:33:35Z")
> [@Go You Big Red Fire Engine](#): > > Some of us don’t take photos especially to put on hot or not. 😉 > Since there was a thread laying around somewhere recently about the site, I signed me up. [And apparently I’m an 8.5](http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=OLKMESA&key=GTK) :rolleyes: > It’s not my fault I have small breasts okay! 8.5 is pretty damn good. And that is a very nice dress and a good foto. Hey look, you put your foto oput there, and ask dudes to rank it- so I am entitled to a little constructive advice. But really - what IS it with the pics of a girls and her ex, with his face marked off? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/47 "2004-06-13T07:39:46Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > But really - what IS it with the pics of a girls and her ex, with his face marked off? 😕 IMO: 1. I am desirable (thus “with a guy”) 2. I am available (thus “with face marked off”) 3. I am social (thus “with person in photo”; bonus if it’s a prom shot or something similar) ---
**Author:** ![Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_You_Big_Red_Fire_Engine)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/48 "2004-06-13T10:30:28Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > 8.5 is pretty damn good. And that is a very nice dress and a good foto(sic). It was my prom 🙂 And thanks to some recent votes, I am now a nine 😃 > [@SCSimmons](#): > > And (despite my comments about genital piercings in another thread), I don’t want to get into your pants. Now now, let’s not go making rash decisions. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![fizzestothetop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e79b87/32.png) [@fizzestothetop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fizzestothetop)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/49 "2004-06-13T15:00:12Z")
I have to fight the urge to put my [picture](http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v65/fizzestothetop/blondeagain.jpg) up on one of those rating type sites. I’m curious as to how I’d rank. Really, really curious but I can’t make myself do it. I just know, as sure as the world, as soon as I put my picture up on one of those sites someone I know IRL would stumble across it and heckle me to death over it. See, (big generalization coming) all the people on those sites are _shallow and vapid_\*, it would be bad to be a sheep and be like them (end generalization)…but oh how I want to be shallow. I want people to tell me I’m pretty and beautiful and give me 10s (as if that would ever happen!). It’s something I silently struggle with every day. _sigh_ :o - except you fine Dopers who have posted your pictures on Hot or Not. Obviously if you’re Dopers you couldn’t possibly be vapid or shallow. I admire your ability to be hot and intelligent at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/50 "2004-06-13T19:05:40Z")
You’re very pretty, Fizzle. I’m sure you’d rank highly. If anyone IRL sees it and says something to you about it, just tell them that someone else must have lifted your pic online and put it up. ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/51 "2004-06-13T21:44:20Z")
**fizzle** , I would give you a 10 simply because of your amazing eyes. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![born\_too\_late](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba9def/32.png) [@born\_too\_late](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/born_too_late)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/52 "2004-06-13T23:38:00Z")
**fizz** , you are sooo cute. I’m getting cavities just looking at you. ---
**Author:** ![fizzestothetop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e79b87/32.png) [@fizzestothetop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fizzestothetop)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/53 "2004-06-14T00:59:52Z")
Well maybe I don’t need Hot or Not after all. Hearin’ stuff like > [@](#): > > fizz, you are sooo cute. I’m getting cavities just looking at you. is better than seein’ a random number assigned to you by random people any day of the week. 🙂 Oh and **Epimetheus** , just so ya know, this random person happened to give you a ten. I’m a big fan of goatees and your eyes are just gorgeous. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/54 "2004-06-14T01:28:43Z")
> [@fizzestothetop](#): > > I have to fight the urge to put my [I’m curious as to how I’d rank. Really, really curious but I can’t make myself do it. [/SIZE] That is a great pic, and you have a very intriguing smile. Good facial features. Now, I’d give that an 8 or a 9. Just so you know, I really almost never give out a 1 or a 10, so a 9 (from me) is very high praise indeed. The same foto can go up & down a rating point depending on my mood and the surrounding pics. Oh, note that some people ask all their freinds to go to their site and keep giving them '10’s" over and over. Kinda spoils the whole idea if you ask me- but they didn’t. 😃 Iampunha: Hmm, interesting. Doesn’t say any of those things to me… :o ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/55 "2004-06-14T01:49:56Z")
I’m scared to put a pic of myself on one of those sites because I never really feel like I look like [myself](http://fff.fathom.org/pages/cisco/5-24%20003.jpg) in pictures. I guess I’m just not “photogenic.” ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/56 "2004-06-14T02:56:11Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > I’m scared to put a pic of myself on one of those sites because I never really feel like I look like [myself](http://fff.fathom.org/pages/cisco/5-24%20003.jpg) in pictures. I guess I’m just not “photogenic.” You look fine to me, but don’t take my word for it, I am neither female or attracted to males, but with a bit of manipulation your could get a photo taken that could get you a very high score. For one, try to get a picture a bit further away, nobody wants to see your pores. 😉 Secondly, the shadow thing probably isn’t going to attract too many women- though ya never know. Shave is my suggestion. Get a bit of your upperbody into the picture, find an angle that you think you look best and work with it. It took me many tries before I found something that I felt worked. I don’t use photo shop, mostly because I don’t know how and don’t really have time to master it. I just follow the creed of the million monkeys. After a while, ONE of em has to look good. ---
**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757/57 "2004-06-14T03:04:27Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > I’m scared to put a pic of myself on one of those sites because I never really feel like I look like [myself](http://fff.fathom.org/pages/cisco/5-24%20003.jpg) in pictures. I guess I’m just not “photogenic.” Dude, you look like Colin Farrell. (Sooo not a bad thing. ;)) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-some-advice-on-hot-or-not/249757.md?page=2)