# Ladies: Would you get involved with a Saudi Arabian man? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 4, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616 "2012-09-04T04:59:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Loveforever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@Loveforever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loveforever)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616/141 "2012-09-21T03:54:10Z")
Yes I will consider her as a friend but may be the relationship will go further more than that " it depends". For me I am from liberal family and I am very open. Also, it would be normal for me to marry an American women. Even if I went back to Saudi Arabia she will not face much difficulties with the community since I live at The Royal Commission where there is a multinational society. ---
**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616/142 "2012-09-21T04:05:29Z")
Are women allowed to wear whatever they want, drive, work where they want, talk to anyone they want, and make their own decisions at The Royal Commission? And are you also strongly in favor of all of those things? ---
**Author:** ![Loveforever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@Loveforever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loveforever)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616/143 "2012-09-21T04:10:47Z")
Actually I want women to wear whatever they want, drive, work where they want, talk to anyone they want, and make their own decisions AS ANY WOMEN IN THE WORLD, at Royal Commission just they can not drive other things mentioned is OK there. But for me I have my personal driver to pick sometimes my mother or sisters when they want to go shopping or other places. ---
**Author:** ![Loveforever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@Loveforever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loveforever)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616/144 "2012-09-21T04:19:27Z")
I work with the Royal commission and in my department Saudies are only 12% of the total 95 employee to give you a sense how much foreigners are there. But i am in US to pursue my higher education ---
**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616/145 "2012-09-21T04:35:43Z")
Well it sounds like your attitude is much better than the guy I know, so that gives you a better chance with American women. If you try to get involved with an American woman I would suggest sharing those views right away, before she even has to ask. ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616/146 "2012-09-21T04:43:58Z")
> [@grude](#): > > The point is that even most american men are going to have SOME misogynist beliefs, or think that women are happier or at home or blah blah blah. If the guy’s biggest flaw is thinking women are HAPPIER staying at home then he isn’t too bad by most standards. Way to not read for context there then. It wasn’t just about him \*only \*believing that women are happier off being kept at home and waiting on their men hand and foot. It was about the fact that this is a particular dealbreaker for _Blackberry_, especially in combination with the fact that he’s already married and has children with that woman. Hence the use of “and” in that statement you quoted in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616/147 "2012-09-21T09:12:03Z")
> [@Blackberry](#): > > Okay, but are you really only interested in her as a friend? Are you married? Do you think your views on gender roles are compatible with those of a typical American woman? **Blackberry** , I find the notion that “friendship with no sex or romance involved between a man and a woman is impossible (well, unless one of them is gay)” much more prevalent in the US than in many other places. Often for societies with strong gender-role differentiation the friendship is expected to be different from that between same-gender friends, but definitely not impossible, and often something to be treasured. It’s perfectly possible for a guy to want to take a woman out to lunch or to the movies without wanting to get into her panties; a guy who’s mentioned his wife in the first “what the woman thought was a date” is, from where I sit, safe and above the table. And if he tries to get closer than that after having firmly established that he’s married (and you having established that means “off bounds”), well, remind him he’s the one who’s married. ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616/148 "2012-09-21T15:07:20Z")
> [@Loveforever](#): > > I work with the Royal commission and in my department Saudies are only 12% of the total 95 employee to give you a sense how much foreigners are there. But i am in US to pursue my higher education Maybe in _your_ department, but according to the website over 73% in the Royal Commission are Saudis and less than 1% are Westerners. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616/149 "2012-09-21T17:52:11Z")
> [@Loveforever](#): > > Actually I want women to wear whatever they want, drive, work where they want, talk to anyone they want, and make their own decisions AS ANY WOMEN IN THE WORLD, at Royal Commission just they can not drive other things mentioned is OK there. But for me I have my personal driver to pick sometimes my mother or sisters when they want to go shopping or other places. What if your mother or sisters want to go where they want, when they want? Are they free to do that? I think I’m going to go hop in my car and drive myself on over to the Habitat For Humanity store to look for a vanity for our bathroom. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616/150 "2012-09-21T19:03:43Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > **Blackberry** , I find the notion that “friendship with no sex or romance involved between a man and a woman is impossible (well, unless one of them is gay)” much more prevalent in the US than in many other places. Often for societies with strong gender-role differentiation the friendship is expected to be different from that between same-gender friends, but definitely not impossible, and often something to be treasured. It’s perfectly possible for a guy to want to take a woman out to lunch or to the movies without wanting to get into her panties; a guy who’s mentioned his wife in the first “what the woman thought was a date” is, from where I sit, safe and above the table. And if he tries to get closer than that after having firmly established that he’s married (and you having established that means “off bounds”), well, remind him he’s the one who’s married. Sure, it’s possible, but it’s not the case with the guy I know, and it’s not the case with **Loveforever** here either. I’ve never once had a stranger, male or female, ask for my number because they really just wanted nothing more than to be my friend. ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616/151 "2012-09-21T20:49:58Z")
> [@Blackberry](#): > > Sure, it’s possible, but it’s not the case with the guy I know, and it’s not the case with **Loveforever** here either. I’ve never once had a stranger, male or female, ask for my number because they really just wanted nothing more than to be my friend. When he is making comments about you being shy and it being good for a woman to be shy, and not being pleased that you are not 21 like he thought, he is not looking to be friends. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616/152 "2012-09-21T21:23:50Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > JFTR my wife is Egyptian through from a liberal family and she grew up in the U.S. Her stepfather once told me, “A good Muslim doesn’t drink, but if he’s a \*really \*good Muslim, it’s OK.” I worked with a guy from Iran once, and asked if he drank beer. “Man, I’m a _Muslim_,” he said. “I drink _whiskey_!” ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616/153 "2012-09-22T00:41:04Z")
> [@Blackberry](#): > > Dude still keeps contacting me all the time too, btw. He’s acting nice about it, but not really because I told him I’m not interested and he’s not respecting that. He just wants a chance to “explain” everything, which I assume means try to change my mind. I forgot that I wanted to comment on this - yeah, I think you’re right about that. It does indeed seem disrespectful to ignore your wishes - you don’t want to hang out with him for perfectly valid reasons, and he just needs to accept that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-would-you-get-involved-with-a-saudi-arabian-man/633616.md?page=7)