# Lady GaGa on SNL

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 5, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639 "2009-10-05T03:37:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/41 "2009-10-05T20:49:24Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> I have to agree with this 110%, though I will say once she sat down and began playing the piano, I thought that at least she is probably more talented that most others of her ilk, for if nothing else she can apparently play an instrument.

She’s actually a formally trained musician, and went to one of those “Fame” type, performing arts schools. Her Wiki says she turned down a chance to go to Julliard.

Before she was a performer, she was a songwriter in the industry, and wrote for some pretty big names. I tend to respect performers who can write their own songs, so I give her credit for that as well (and I think she’s got some real talent at it, though it’s not my style of music).

At least she’s not a lip synching, pop tart fraud.

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/42 "2009-10-05T21:02:08Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> She’s actually a formally trained musician, and went to one of those “Fame” type, performing arts schools. Her Wiki says she turned down a chance to go to Julliard.
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> Before she was a performer, she was a songwriter in the industry, and wrote for some pretty big names. I tend to respect performers who can write their own songs, so I give her credit for that as well (and I think she’s got some real talent at it, though it’s not my style of music).
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> At least she’s not a lip synching, pop tart fraud.

I had no idea, and yes in my book, if you dont write (at least some of) your own songs or play an instrument, you are not an actual musician.

I still think she should forget the outlandish attention whore fashonfreakshow though, and continue to work on creating music, even though I dont personally find the music very appealing…

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/43 "2009-10-05T21:03:02Z")

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No lip synching? Wasn’t most of that first performance lip synching? Having heard the radio version, I couldn’t imagine her passing off that sound in the back as mere background singers.

Liked the Saturn rings though, I haven’t enjoyed a music performance that much on SNL since Christina Aguilera

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/44 "2009-10-05T21:49:07Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> This is ridiculous and frankly pretty fucking disgusting. This kind of malicious rumor manufacturing says a hell of a lot more about you than about Lady GaGa, **z**.
> 
> Watch [this video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-rM0lbXd-I&feature=related) and get back to me on your “pics that seem to show a bit of a bulge.” You could find a still pic with a shadow manipulated to show Shirley Temple was hung like a fucking horse if you had a mind too.

And yet, that is exactly what the rumors are.

Mind, I have no dog in this fight, but given our stated goal of “fighting ignorance”, sometimes a little light much be shined to drive it out.

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One of the differences between the second SNL song and the basic acoustic Pokerface was that the SNL bit seemed to be 2 songs blended together… one was acoustic Pokerface, the other was her singing about living in New York, and all that sort of thing right there (/Arnold).

I liked it.

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/45 "2009-10-05T22:07:28Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> I had no idea, and yes in my book, if you dont write (at least some of) your own songs or play an instrument, you are not an actual musician.
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> I still think she should forget the outlandish attention whore fashonfreakshow though, and continue to work on creating music, even though I dont personally find the music very appealing…

She’s said straight up that she considers her work more “performance art” than strictly music. You may not like it, but the costumes, hair, “weird” videos are integral to her work. If she got rid of the “fashionfreakshow” (which, quite frankly, I love), then she wouldn’t be doing what she wanted to do.

And I really don’t get the rumors that she’s a man. She’s not traditionally pretty in the bland Hollywood way but (as a straight chick) I find her extremely attractive in the literal sense. She just has that _something_ that almost mesmerizes you. Apparently having a larger nose means you’re a man.

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/46 "2009-10-05T22:18:49Z")

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> [@zweisamkeit](#):
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> She’s said straight up that she considers her work more “performance art” than strictly music. You may not like it, but the costumes, hair, “weird” videos are integral to her work. If she got rid of the “fashionfreakshow” (which, quite frankly, I love), then she wouldn’t be doing what she wanted to do.
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> And I really don’t get the rumors that she’s a man. She’s not traditionally pretty in the bland Hollywood way but (as a straight chick) I find her extremely attractive in the literal sense. She just has that _something_ that almost mesmerizes you. Apparently having a larger nose means you’re a man.

I dont know if you are referring to me, but I had never seen Lady Gaga until saturday night, never heard her music or any rumors that she was a he. I had only heard (God knows where) the name “Lady Gaga” and was actually surprised that it was a single person, not a band.

BTW----She looked like a fairly standard, moderately attractive woman to me, but certainly not particularly striking.

I do give her props for playing piano and writing music (even though I did not care for the songs she sang) but she still looked like a high school kid trying to get attention from the parents by wearing a shocking, silly outfit…

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/47 "2009-10-05T22:23:32Z")

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I think [this concert video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvZ-hMcLANM) started the penis rumors. She is sitting on a scooter in a short short skirt, she apparently adjusts her crotch, stands up, and inadvertently shows the everyone goods (allegedly).

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/48 "2009-10-05T22:34:28Z")

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Looks like underwear to me.

She doesn’t have any masculine characteristics that I can see – no narrow hips, big hands, Adam’s apple or masculine voice. I’m not buying it. The videos on youtube alleging showing “bulges” just look like thick undergaments to me.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/49 "2009-10-05T22:35:42Z")

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If anyone is interested, [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b2C20qN4Ps&) is Miss Germanotta before she became “Lady GaGa.”

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**Author:** ![Belrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed655f/32.png) [@Belrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belrix)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/50 "2009-10-05T22:42:35Z")

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You know, she’s a [tool of the Illuminati](http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676) don’t you?

Her Name: Gaga is a term that immediately refers to absent mindedness.

“Gaga” is probably the easiest word to say in the English language, as it is often the first sound emitted by babies trying to imitate speech. So her name basically says: I’m a lady and I’m empty-headed. This empty head can filled with any crap you want. Imitate me young people. This state of mind is achieved after successful mind control.  
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Her logo is pretty revealing and particularly fitting. Its a headless female body with a bolt of lightning going through her and exiting her genitalia. There is once again a focus on the lack of conscious thought by the singer. The body looks like the weird headless mannequins you find at clothing stores. The bolt of lightning implies that her thoughtless body has been “charged” with a force that gives it life (interesting note: trauma-based mind control is often induced using electro-shock treatments).

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/51 "2009-10-05T22:49:05Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> If anyone is interested, [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b2C20qN4Ps&) is Miss Germanotta before she became “Lady GaGa.”

Wow, she looks like she’s about 16.

There’s something kind of appealing about that video. Just an unpretentious kid rocking out. If she’d have stuck with that kind of presentation, I could see myself having become a fan.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/52 "2009-10-05T22:53:08Z")

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Her wiki says she got the nickname “Gaga” from a producer who thought she sang like Freddie Mercury (as a reference to the Queen song, “Radio Gaga”), and she adopted it as a stage name.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/53 "2009-10-05T23:04:31Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> Something about her fat face and big nose. . . I don’t normally judge a musical artist on their looks but she just brings out an irrational distaste in me.

Heh. I think she’s actually really cute (& the sketches this week are the first time I’ve really seen her face without shades or other distortions.

But her songs & persona are a bit…creepy.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/54 "2009-10-05T23:08:31Z")

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Weirdern’ owl shit.

I do like most of her songs, though.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/55 "2009-10-05T23:26:09Z")

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I love the way she redid Poker Face. I think Lady Gaga is actually doing something for the pop tarts, bringing some…I won’t say class…but something that the other chicks who just can’t handle life bring to it. I hope she doesn’t burn out and go stupid.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/56 "2009-10-05T23:46:55Z")

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> [@Belrix](#):
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> You know, she’s a [tool of the Illuminati](http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676) don’t you?
> 
> Her Name: Gaga is a term that immediately refers to absent mindedness.
> 
> “Gaga” is probably the easiest word to say in the English language, as it is often the first sound emitted by babies trying to imitate speech. So her name basically says: I’m a lady and I’m empty-headed. This empty head can filled with any crap you want. Imitate me young people. This state of mind is achieved after successful mind control.  
> \<snip\>  
> Her logo is pretty revealing and particularly fitting. Its a headless female body with a bolt of lightning going through her and exiting her genitalia. There is once again a focus on the lack of conscious thought by the singer. The body looks like the weird headless mannequins you find at clothing stores. The bolt of lightning implies that her thoughtless body has been “charged” with a force that gives it life (interesting note: trauma-based mind control is often induced using electro-shock treatments).

Speaking as a woman who adores a conspiracy theory; I would like to thank you for introducing me to this website.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/57 "2009-10-06T00:46:13Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Wow, she looks like she’s about 16.
> 
> There’s something kind of appealing about that video. Just an unpretentious kid rocking out. If she’d have stuck with that kind of presentation, I could see myself having become a fan.

Yeah this is close to what I thought when I saw this video. I can’t stand the music thats making her so much money and such fame, but she is a talented person. It’s just too bad she’s wasting it all on drek that will be forgotten in a year or two.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/58 "2009-10-06T01:40:47Z")

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Sign me up, I thought she was terrific.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/59 "2009-10-06T05:52:03Z")

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Could Madonna have used _More_ BOTOX? Damn, why did she ruin her face like that, such that it was. BOTOX is the work of SATAN.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gaga-on-snl/512639/60 "2009-10-06T06:35:31Z")

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Her makeup made her look bland to me. But in that before video, I can see what you are talking about. That is sexy body language. Almost in a porno sense. I can see why women, who tend to notice body language more, would find her attractive, once she toned it down.

Like I said, for me, it was that pale face that looked too much like the Wayans brothers in _White Chicks_ that made me think she was unattractive. Only her voice saved her.

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