# Lady Gaga's dogwalker shot and dogs stolen **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 26, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812 "2021-02-26T14:40:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/61 "2021-02-27T00:49:38Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Best case scenario would be to release them somewhere, but I doubt they would risk that. Not sure I see much risk to them just releasing them, as long as they release them away from where they live. Granted, I don’t see much risk if they chose to kill them, either. But at least there’s the possibility they might not. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/62 "2021-02-27T00:52:03Z")
I bet this was two generic street crime bozos who got the wild idea of moving up in class and graduated from knocking over liquor stores for the cash register in the poor part of town to try stealing some fancy doggies in a tony zipcode. The “plot” is no deeper than that. And instead of stealing dogs from some generic rich non-celebrity business-dude, they accidently stole them from a pop celebrity. And in a panicky moment they shot somebody. Now they’re in way over their head and have no ability to think their way out. They’re screwed. Hard to say if the dogs are already dead or are abandoned someplace, perhaps to be found and perhaps not. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/63 "2021-02-27T01:04:19Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Not sure I see much risk to them just releasing them, as long as they release them away from where they live. Except they would have to drive around with a couple of yappy dogs in the trunk. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/64 "2021-02-27T01:23:21Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Gaga will pay whatever taxes are required. Gaga doesn’t have to pay any taxes. However, she may have to file a 1099-MISC to report a payment to an unincorporated independent contractor. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/65 "2021-02-27T01:23:57Z")
I wonder if the dogwalker had some kind of weapon of his own, albeit, maybe just a pocket knife, but threatened them with something. Not that that is an excuse for shooting him, but it’s a reason. Is stealing dog a felony? and, is there such a thing as “statutory attempted murder”? I would really hate for the dogwalker having a weapon (or claiming to) to be a mitigating circumstance. I hope that what they did is a serious enough crime to make shooting the dogwalker attempted _murder_, whether they had any intention to shoot him, or can claim self-defense. I hope it doesn’t become some sort of assault charge-- except by plea bargain. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/66 "2021-02-27T01:24:39Z")
I smell a Monty Python kind of story somewhere in all of this. Call for Michael Palin! ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/67 "2021-02-27T01:34:58Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Is stealing dog a felony? It wasn’t just stealing a dog, it was an armed robbery. They stole property of another and used deadly force to overcome resistance to the taking. And it’s assault with a deadly weapon. But, if this is what you’re asking, no, there’s no attempted felony murder. I’m not going to watch the video, but whether it’s attempted murder will probably depend on whether one can reasonably infer that the shooter intended to kill the dog walker. If he died, they could possibly be charged with a “depraved heart” murder, depending on jurisdiction, but that charge doesn’t work with attempts. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/68 "2021-02-27T01:42:26Z")
> [@eschrodinger](#): > > All the shelters and rescues around here do it, and I think a whole lot of pets here are adopted from shelters and rescues. Yeah, our dogs came from the same rescue organization, and they always chip them. We change the first notification to us, but keep the rescue as a secondary notification. That way, if they can’t contact us for some reason, they’ll go back to rescue. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/69 "2021-02-27T01:48:30Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > I wonder if the dogwalker had some kind of weapon of his own, albeit, maybe just a pocket knife, but threatened them with something. Not that that is an excuse for shooting him, but it’s a reason. Did you watch the video? There’s no indication at all of this. The guy first falls down, then gets up and starts to struggle with one of them, holding on to him and pulling him. He didn’t have time to pull a knife, and when he was struggling both his hands were occupied. The shooter panicked because he was holding on to the other guy and not letting him go. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/70 "2021-02-27T01:57:18Z")
I watched it, but honestly, it was hard to tell what was happening all the time. I watched it only once. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/71 "2021-02-27T02:00:10Z")
I’ll be they’re stupid enough to try to get an accomplice to pretend he just found the dogs in order to claim the reward. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/72 "2021-02-27T02:10:48Z")
[This video from another camera shows a different angle.](https://news.sky.com/video/cctv-shows-moment-lady-gagas-dog-walker-is-shot-12229580) You can see the victim is pulling on one of the robbers, not threatening him with a knife. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/73 "2021-02-27T02:15:13Z")
I don’t think that’s what you think it is. ---
**Author:** ![Galactus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galactus/32/3581_2.png) [@Galactus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galactus)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/74 "2021-02-27T02:15:53Z")
I think I saw this scenario on Law and Order. I can’t remember what Lenny’s one-liner was. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/75 "2021-02-27T02:23:51Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I don’t think that’s what you think it is. Fixed. You should have said I had posted the wrong link. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/76 "2021-02-27T03:52:11Z")
LATimes is reporting the dogs have been recovered, safe and sound. No details yet. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/77 "2021-02-27T04:00:28Z")
[Here](https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/lady-gaga-offers-reward-dog-walker-hero-shot-hollywood/2537342/) are a few details. > [@](#): > > A woman brought the dogs to the LAPD’s Olympic Community Police Station, just northwest of downtown, around 6 p.m, said Capt. Jonathan Tippett, commanding officer of the elite Robbery-Homicide Division. > > Lady Gaga’s representative and detectives went to the station and confirmed that they were the dogs. > > The singer is currently in Rome to film a movie. > > The woman who dropped off the dogs appears to be “”uninvolved and unassociated" with Wednesday night’s attack, Tippett said. So I guess the robbers released the dogs after all. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/78 "2021-02-27T04:06:34Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > How do you legally give anyone $500K without the goverment wanting taxes? I don’t understand why that would be a barrier. I hear the same thing about the lottery. If you mention that it’s up to $X, someone in the room will reply that you’ll only get $Y after taxes. $500,000 minus taxes is still better than $0. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/79 "2021-02-27T04:14:02Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > $500,000 minus taxes is still better than $0. And $900,000 after taxes is about $550K. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812/80 "2021-02-27T09:17:10Z")
The fact that 500k might be 300k after taxes would not prevent me from turning in the dogs if I found them. I’m very glad the dogs are safe. I’ll admit, I said a little prayer for them. Yes, I said one for the dogwalker too. I fully admit as well that there’s probably something crosswired in my brain, but I get very upset when bad things happen to animals-- much more than I do when bad things happen to people. That includes in movies and books. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-dogwalker-shot-and-dogs-stolen/933812.md?page=5)