# Lady Gaga's new single **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 11, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059 "2011-02-11T20:16:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/21 "2011-02-12T06:17:03Z")
I disagree, but time will tell. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/22 "2011-02-12T06:29:13Z")
> [@salinqmind](#): > > Speaking only of her music, she’s OK. But IMO she’s only had one monstrously good song, so to me she’s a one-hit wonder. Which one is that? Poker Face? Bad Romance? Alejandro? Telephone? I honestly don’t know which one of these would be the monstrously good one. I’m going to guess “Poker Face.” ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/23 "2011-02-12T14:51:22Z")
Though I kind of enjoy her other work, it’s Bad Romance I LOVE. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/24 "2011-02-12T15:14:27Z")
I hesitate to listen, since, in my mind, catchy is a bad thing, as it means a song is stuck in my head when I don’t want it to be. But I’ll do it. The following is what I thought live. Wow. This is the first time I can’t understand her, or hear anything even interesting about the music. I think I liked the catchy stuff better. And that’s saying a lot. Okay, I can understand the rapping part, but I’ve already forgotten it two seconds later. I may dislike catchy, but I do want to remember a little bit of it right afterwards. All I’ve got is that she was born this way, whatever that means. The last part would be catchy, if it didn’t sounds so much like a Christian song I used to listen to. I don’t even think she’s aspiring to that level. This is probably the worst I’ve heard from her. The one thing she had going for her was not being interesting. This was generic and therefore boring. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/25 "2011-02-12T15:56:22Z")
A good friend of mine put it this way: “The new Gaga is good but I hate that the message involves god. In order to be okay with who you are you have to think it was all on purpose?” The songs message struck me as very odd and I couldn’t say it any better than she did. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/26 "2011-02-12T17:31:56Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Musically it does sound very derivative of Madonna. I like some of her stuff, but not this. > > Regards, > Shodan 2nd. It sounds like a rip off of Express Yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/27 "2011-02-12T17:36:01Z")
I just listened to it and found myself automatically trying to sing _Express Yourself_ over it, the same way I like to sing _Sun Always Shines on TV_ by A-ha over _Beautiful Day_ by U2. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/28 "2011-02-12T18:20:02Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > A good friend of mine put it this way: “The new Gaga is good but I hate that the message involves god. In order to be okay with who you are you have to think it was all on purpose?” > The songs message struck me as very odd and I couldn’t say it any better than she did. You being too literal if you think the line “God makes no mistakes” in a pop song means that the message necessarily involves God and purpose. Granted, the character of the singer’s character’s mother says “he made you perfect” in a way that suggests a relatively unmetaphoric belief on _her_ part, but that doesn’t make that the _song’s_ message. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/29 "2011-02-12T22:57:49Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Lenny Kravitz? In terms of pop culture influence and popularity, he’s not even in the same league as Lady Gaga. (If you want to be objective, he never even had a #1 hit, and only two top tens overall. Almost every single released by Lady Gaga has charted in the Top 10.) Maybe it’s selective memory or something, but I don’t ever recall Lenny Kravitz being a cultural icon. He does have 4 Grammys and 8 studio albums spanning over 20 years. He’s not exactly a slouch. **Snowboarder Bo** suffers a bit from “my music is best”-itis. Nearly all music is derivative of someone elses. > [@pulykamell](#): > > Originally Posted by salinqmind > Speaking only of her music, she’s OK. But IMO she’s only had one monstrously good song, so to me she’s a one-hit wonder. > > Which one is that? Poker Face? Bad Romance? Alejandro? Telephone? I honestly don’t know which one of these would be the monstrously good one. I’m going to guess “Poker Face.” Love Game? Paparazzi? ---
**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/30 "2011-02-12T23:01:21Z")
Love it. Not as good as ‘Paparazzi’ or ‘Poker Face’ but very few pop singles from the last few years are. I have high hopes indeed for the new album. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/31 "2011-02-13T05:05:40Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > He does have 4 Grammys and 8 studio albums spanning over 20 years. He’s not exactly a slouch. > > **Snowboarder Bo** suffers a bit from “my music is best”-itis. Nearly all music is derivative of someone elses. And Mr. Kravitz is no one that anyone cares about anymore, either. I suffer from no such malady, and nothing I’ve written here can even vaguely support your contention. I ask politely that you refrain from trying to deflect the argument into being about me. It’s not about me. This thread is about Lady Gaga and her music. If you want to malign me, there’s a forum for that. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/32 "2011-02-13T05:20:57Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > And Mr. Kravitz is no one that anyone cares about anymore, either. OK, if the question is, will Lady Gaga be somebody future generations will cite as a great influence in their own music and relevant in the way people like the Pixies, the Beatles, the Velvet Underground, Venom, Black Sabbath, etc., are, then, no, of course not. At least not from the work I’ve heard from her yet. But will her music still be played thirty years from now? Of course it will. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/33 "2011-02-13T05:25:10Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > OK, if the question is, will Lady Gaga be somebody future generations will cite as a great influence in their own music and relevant in the way people like the Pixies, the Beatles, the Velvet Underground, Venom, Black Sabbath, etc., are, then, no, of course not. At least not from the work I’ve heard from her yet. But will her music still be played thirty years from now? Of course it will. Well sure. I mean, it’s not like the recordings go away or anything. My point is that I doubt people will still care about her or buy her music in a few years. Now, if she’s _really_ smart (and frankly I think she is) then she’ll ditch the Lady Gaga persona after a couple more albums and create a new persona, _a la_ Bowie. ---
**Author:** ![Allthegood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c68b51/32.png) [@Allthegood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Allthegood)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/34 "2011-02-13T05:26:37Z")
Eh. It’s no “Bad Romance.” I’m not impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/35 "2011-02-14T07:20:42Z")
“Kinda like”. And I LOVED 80s-90s Madonna. I just… I dunno. Poker Face, that “can’t read my” refrain, that evoked 80s-90s pop. This single outright copies. And Of all of Queen Madge’s songs to copy, you choose Express Yourself? Really? Even for pre-vocal training Madge, Express Yourself is rather… dull. Why?? I… dunno. I think this is going to end up like Alejandro for me - like, but would not listen again. Maybe it’ll grow on me, kinda like P!nk’s Raise Your Glass, but that at least had some emotion in it. Of all her music, I think only Bad Romance thought about pushing musical boundaries at all. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/36 "2011-02-14T07:40:30Z")
She’s putting all her efforts into promoting herself. Maybe she’s already realized she laid an egg with this newest cover of Madonna and decided to make a parody of herself at the Grammy’s. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/37 "2011-02-14T14:35:50Z")
I’m disappointed. I like Gaga. I kind of want to see her bloom into this generation’s Madonna. But not by practically copying “Express Yourself”. When you find yourself breaking into the chorus of a totally different song just from the impetus of the bass line and harmony… I heard it the first time at a club on Saturday night and I spent the span of both times the DJ played it just shaking my head. I’m really hoping this was a single stumble and not a sign of what the whole album’s going to be like. ---
**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/38 "2011-02-14T14:53:28Z")
Listening to that song was akin to being beaten over the back of the head with an interracial gay couple. I don’t think she missed a single minority Catchy tune though. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/39 "2011-02-14T16:19:53Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > This is probably the worst I’ve heard from her. The one thing she had going for her was not being interesting. This was generic and therefore boring. I’m surprised I didn’t get snarked for this. I meant that the one thine she had going for her was “being interesting” or “not being boring.” :smack: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > My point is that I doubt people will still care about her or buy her music in a few years. Now, if she’s _really_ smart (and frankly I think she is) then she’ll ditch the Lady Gaga persona after a couple more albums and create a new persona, _a la_ Bowie. Didn’t Madonna also reinvent herself every few years? ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059/40 "2011-02-14T17:21:49Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Didn’t Madonna also reinvent herself every few years? Not as thoroughly as Bowie did, but that may simply be a matter of interpretation/personal opinion. As to the song itself, I have to say, this is the MOST Madonna-esque track Gaga’s done. It isn’t bad, per se, but it is less memorable and catchy than her previous work. It’s also just a \*little \*on the preachy side… that last echo “same DNA, but born this way…” ok, was that REALLY necessary? I mean, damn, I like gay people, and it’s good for someone powerful in the media to be on their team, but really - this is a little bit heavy. Anyone who’s going to be singing along with that ‘anthem’ is already in a demographic which statistically seems to be ok with the message already. I’m hoping that the video will redeem it a little. I felt a little meh about Alejandro, but I really enjoyed the music video - and with those visuals in mind, I found I enjoyed the song more afterwards. Maybe something similar will happen here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lady-gagas-new-single/571059.md?page=3)