Well, fine. If you’re going to be such a bitch about it, I’ll just have them ring up my Magnum condoms, KY Warming Lotion, and Fleet Enema 3-Pack at the front register.
Good day, Madam.
Hopefully you’ll be able to ring up at one of those self-service checkouts too…I know how much human interaction must irk you…
IMO, the very definition of nannyisming.
Re: all the “nannying” that’s being thrown around:
The medical and pharmaceutical fields are fucking REGULATED INDUSTRIES. The very nature of the field means that there are hoops you must jump through and restrictions on some things. This is not nannying, it is a long time of evolving the balance between patient care, patient freedom, and the health risks to the rest of society with a whole lot of capitalism thrown in. It’s not just the ability to boss people around and shake the theoretical finger in their face. Calling a patient’s doctor to inform them of a patient’s desire to sell their medication isn’t nannying. It’s diversion of a controlled substance, for christ’s sake. It’s illegal. But somehow in bizarro world it’s nannying. Whatever, maybe I just don’t get it.
Just a thank you to the Pharmacists and Doctors and Rehab folks and even probation officers…
Thank you for getting my mom off of her addiction to Codeine (No thanks to Canada, where she was able to buy it over the counter, which gave her the idea that there is nothing wrong with taking as many as she “needed”)
Thank you for stopping my 17 year old nephew who went from A+ to ER when he discovered how easy it was to get prescription meds.
Thank you for finally tipping off the cops to my … niece in law’s(?) prescription forgeries that led to her two stunted, delayed kids and her loss of the house.
Yeah, opiate addictions hurt. The person getting the pills may be feeling just fine, but everybody around them is trying to pick up the pieces.
I have seen no reason to give you credit for anything.
Afraid I’m going to have to reject that Friend Request, then. Feel free to resubmit.
Yes it is. I understand these things are regulated. That’s the part I disagree with.
Think about prohibition. Did making alcohol illegal transcend some greater truth of whether booze was OK? No. Was making it illegal nannying? Yes. And why if being REGULATED made it a bad thing was it then re-instated?
My bizzarro world allows me to disagree with my personal decisions being legislated against.
People do illegal things all the time. Do you call the police every time you see someone speeding?
Don’t fight the hypothetical, your alcohol analogy doesn’t even come close.
Alcohol is also regulated, probably more so than some drugs. You can’t legally have it if you’re under 21. In some places, you can only buy it from the state, and you can’t buy it before or after certain times on certain days. And in some places (aka “dry” counties), you can’t get it at all.
In Pennsylvania, where I live, we’ve got goofy alcohol laws. You have to buy wine and hard liquor at a state-owned store. You have to buy cases of beer from a beer distributor but six-packs from a bar. Until very recently, all of these establishments had to close on Sundays, so if you didn’t get your hooch by Saturday, you were SOL. The reason for all of this control is nannyism; various interests think that, unless alcohol is regulated heavily, people will abuse it. So by restricting access, people will have less access to it and will be less likely to abuse it.
Sound familiar?
Robin
And nobody ever sues bars for serving people to the point of total inebriation and turning them loose on the road.
That’s just dumb. Everything should just be a personal choice? The Maaaaannn is putting us down. Anarchy seems like the way to go, when you’re 14. Most of us grow up. I have a sore throat, I think I’ll go buy some Cipro. I stubbed my toe, lets go get some Oxy. I have high blood pressure so if I take triple the dose it should get even better!
I have no problem with Darwinism. I just don’t think it should be state sponsored.
ETA I too love the fact that you bring up one of the most regulated products in the country as an example of something unregulated. regulated does not equal prohibition.
No insult taken. But your point really has nothing to do with prescriptions. Prescribed antibiotics do exactly the same thing. And doctors are notorious for over-prescribing them.
Maybe not, but they can be subject to criminal charges. And yes, it really does happen. Bars in states with tight dram shop laws are terrified of it, and they really do “cut people off.”
We seem to have overlooked tolerance in this “he must be an addict!” story.
maybe the OP is a junkie and maybe not. Maybe he should have clarified things with his doc. (I know it wouldn’t occur to me to call my doctor with news that my thyroid pills spilled into a sink full of water, but apparently I am supposed to do so. Duly noted).
There’s a lot here, and I don’t have a dog in all fights.
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Snotty pharmacists. They exist, as do snotty nurses, docs, shoe salesmen, hair stylists, you get the idea. Just because you graduated from Pharm school doesn’t mean you have people skills or even common courtesy.
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Addicts. They’re a PIA. As an acute care nurse, I learned long ago that addicts can and do feel pain; that no amount of moral grandstanding on the part of the healthcare team will change their behavior, and that it is better to keep them on their shit while hospitalized. IOW, give 'em the damned drugs.
This becomes much more problematic outside the controlled world of the hospital, though.
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I think the Rx didn’t explain things correctly to the OP. In fact, I think (if the OP is not an addict) a better handling of the matter by the Pharmicist might have changed the whole scenario.
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Just once I would like to meet one of these doctors who prescribe narcs like candy. I could use some upon occasion–I have yet to meet a doctor who will give me anything except Tylenol #3s (which constipate me horribly, upset my stomach and make me sleep). I’ve had several outpt procedures and never an Rx for them. My podiatrist prefers Aleve-yuck. It makes me feel like my nervous system is screwed in too tight (never mind-it just doesn’t work for me).
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The treatment of chronic pain in this country is abysmal. There is nothing ennobling about pain-it doesn’t make you stronger or a better person to “suffer through it” My FIL, who has lived with an alcoholic his whole married life, refuses ANY opiod for his cancer pain. We don’t know if MIL would steal his meds, but he refuses because he doesn’t want to be seen as “weak”. This is fucked up.
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Given the lack of compliance with prescribed meds, the ignorance that most people have of their meds and the sheer number of meds there are out there, it would be foolish in the extreme to DE-regulate pharmaceuticals.
I have no answers, but feel better for the vent.
Wooosh.
That was sarcasm, I do believe.
Of course there is nothing ennobling about pain. But some of us don’t like being overmedicated and would rather handle the pain. I broke my hand and I took one of the OCs that were prescribed. I had knee surgery and took maybe 5 over a couple of days then dealt with the pain. Pain is nothing to hide from either. I am not anti-medication. If I had cancer I would tell them to crank it up to eleven. And you will get my prevacid when you pry it from my cold dead hand.
:smack:
That’s, like, three times in two days. I don’t think I’m smart enough for the SDMB. 
You raise a good point. We make a practice of informing pts that we might not be able to take away ALL of their pain. On that much hated and useless pain scale we are forced by governing bodies to use, a “3” is an acceptable level of pain to relieve the pt down to, if you follow me. IOW, if the pt says his pain is a 10/10 (with 10 being the worst pain he has ever felt), getting it to a 3 is considered good practice.
Now, most folks would say that getting it to NO pain (zero) is the object. But it isn’t. Since pain is a subjective experience, your 3 may well be my 7. Or you may say 3 to please me (the RN) or you may say 8 because you have emotional pain and want oblivion (NOT the same as addiction). Or you may fear the pain coming back and not trust the nurses to bring you more meds, so ask for more now…the scenarios are endless. It is such a hard thing to treat, never mind treat well.
Who is trying to hide from pain? It is well documented that pain interferes with healing and if pain becomes chronic, there may well be nothing to stop it, ever.
Regarding the pain scale, then, I guess the thing to do would be to respond with a weighted number; i.e., consider 3 to be the zero, and answer accordingly.
That’s the thing, you never know how a pt is going to use the scale. Frankly, most older pts have no patience with it. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been stared at by an octogenarian and told, “It hurts.” Hell, most of the time, they can’t describe the pain! (and you can’t lead the witness).