# Lamar Odom found unconscious in a Nevada Brothel **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 14, 2015, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605 "2015-10-14T03:11:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/61 "2015-10-16T01:51:55Z")
> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#): > > moronic ramblings from someone excusing the idiotic actions of a multi-millionaire druggie You must be one of those conservative intellectuals I’ve read about in Time Magazine. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/62 "2015-10-16T02:25:07Z")
> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#): > > moronic ramblings from someone excusing the idiotic actions of a multi-millionaire druggie Yes, “druggies” often perform idiotic actions, it sort of goes along with drug abuse. Whether or not one is a millionaire, having a life where your mom dies when you’re 13, you’ve buried one of your kids, your dad is fucked up, and so on and so forth really sucks. No amount of money fixes that. Nor does any amount of drugs, even if they numb the pain temporarily. Sometimes. On top of all that, he obviously has problems with the relationships that normally help people get through the bad shit life (and death) can throw at a person - hence, the baby mama/dada drama and the soon-to-be-ex-wife. Which relationship problems are also fairly common with people who lose their functional parent at a young age and are left with a fucked up parent, even if some other relative rescues them and does his/her best to try to finish the job of bringing him up. Despite all that, his former co-workers say nice things about him, and apparently his ex’s still give enough of a damn about him to bury any disagreement and join the group at his bedside without breaking into a feud. Which makes me think he’s basically a good guy with personal habits (like drugs) that drive people away. Best case scenario he wakes up and is “only mildly” brain damaged. Then he will “only” have to endure a physical and mental rehab that might restore something like normal function. Maybe. After months or years. More likely, either he’ll wake up but be horribly damaged, or not wake up at all. Then the people who care most about him in the world will have to make the decision to either “let nature take its course” - a sanitized phrase for watching a loved one die, telling yourself that those agonal breaths aren’t as painful as they look, that brain death has (probably) already occurred, and the person has gone, leaving only a body that hasn’t finished moving yet - or actually decide to shut down the machinery which, no matter how you dress it up with euphemisms, is ending what life remains. Yes, the Kardashians are self-absorbed and famous largely for being famous but they’re still human beings and they’re still going through a family tragedy. It’s fucking sick how social media is slathering over this, how people talk like Odom somehow deserves this, and go on and on about everything unimportant. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/63 "2015-10-16T13:08:41Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > My last post on this point. It’s not what you’re posting, it’s _that_ your posting it (and defending it), more specifically, in this thread. I don’t know you’re family, but imagine if your husband were in a coma and one of his friends said ‘was he married to the fat sister or the one with the dark hair’ (you being the fat sister)? In general, most people would say, "he was married to [name] and/or pull out a phone and find a picture of you to jog their memory, not describe you by your weight. But if you want to have a discussion about the Kardashians (and their weight), go nuts, this just seems like a really strange place for it. Most of the time, when celebrities get very sick, very suddenly, the discussion isn’t about the weight of their spouses. > > Hey, Khloe Kardashian is watching her husband die, let’s talk about how fat she used to be! Only one person is using this thread as a punching bag for someone you don’t like, and it’s you. You’re the one not reading for context and just looking for bullshit reasons to freak out. She’s explained multiple times what she meant, and it has absolutely nothing to do with talking about how fat she used to be. She was being conciliatory. You, even in your last post, had to throw out an attack. You aren’t just upset about what was said–you haven’t even attacked the people who actually started it. And, note, this will be my one and only post addressing this. Because, unlike you, I’m not going to sully up the thread after whining about someone else doing so. I don’t know who this guy is. I can’t care to that extent. But I can’t imagine how bad you must feel to be doing this many drugs to this extent. So I can have some sympathy there. Unfortunately, I find it really hard to care about the Kardashians, as I don’t really get any vibe out of them that they are capable of actual love. They’re all too vain to care about other people more than themselves. Maybe if a sister died, I could feel more for them. But I have a hard time picturing any of them actually loving a guy. And, yes, I know that’s a flaw in me. If I knew them as human beings, I would be perfectly willing to change my mind, but it’s not worth it right now at this stage in my life. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/64 "2015-10-16T14:07:34Z")
I think the Kardashian’s are awful people, but by all accounts they really, truly care about Lamar and they’re devastated by this. Even after the separation, Kris (Khloe’s mother) called Lamar almost every day to check on him until a counselor told her to give him some space. Even though he cheated on her, Khloe called him often to check up on him too. I can bash on the Kashashian’s with the best of 'em, but I don’t think now’s the time. Even awful people can hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/65 "2015-10-16T17:33:59Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > I think the Kardashian’s are **awful people** , but by all accounts they really, truly care about Lamar and they’re devastated by this. > > Even after the separation, Kris (Khloe’s mother) called Lamar almost every day to check on him until a counselor told her to give him some space. Even though he cheated on her, Khloe called him often to check up on him too. > > I can bash on the Kashashian’s with the best of 'em, but I don’t think now’s the time. Even \*\*awful people \*\*can hurt. Good thing you didn’t take the time to “bash” these aweful people. 😃 I for one don’t feel bad for Lamar. If you’re gonna go hookers and blow is the way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/66 "2015-10-16T17:36:31Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Good thing you didn’t take the time to “bash” these aweful people. 😃 > > I for one don’t feel bad for Lamar. If you’re gonna go hookers and blow is the way to go. I guess that kinda was bashing wasn’t it? At least I didn’t go into specifics. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/67 "2015-10-16T20:54:30Z")
[ESPN reports](http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13902999/lamar-odom-conscious-breathing-own-las-vegas-hospital) things are better for Odom. He is conscious and breathing on his own. This is good news. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/68 "2015-10-16T21:53:43Z")
+1 Very good news. So glad he woke up and is speaking. Only Time will tell how complete a recovery he gets. ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/69 "2015-10-18T15:21:51Z")
Interestingly, he is verbally and physically communicating with the doctors and visitors; both the Kardashian camp and his children have released statements indicating that he is slowly recovering. His heart is mending and he’s off the ventilator (but still needs a breathing mask), but four ‘vital organs’ still haven’t gotten back on line. He’s lucky in that he didn’t lose oxygen to his brain, so the recovery- if it continues along this path- won’t be as extensive as, say, if he’d been in similar straits as early reports of Bobbi Kristina Brown. I hope that the reports are accurate, and that the folks that pulled together for him in this crisis stay with him through the recovery period. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/70 "2015-10-18T15:53:03Z")
He supposedly suffered an ischemic stroke. That means part of his brain was, indeed, without oxygen for some time period. Whether or not that damage will be significant going forward can not be determined at this time although depending on where in the brain the stroke occurred the doctors may be able to make some predictions on what functions might be impacted. However, it’s unlikely they’d be sharing the prognosis with the public. At this point it may not be possible to predict the course of his recovery. He might be left with, say, kidney damage or damage to something else. He might or might not have some impairment of movement or balance or something else. Yes, it is a hopeful sign he’s awake and communicating at this point. There are still a lot of unknowns. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/71 "2015-10-19T16:14:21Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > However, it’s unlikely they’d be sharing the prognosis with the public. Yes, those Kardashians do guard their privacy so, don’t they? 😉 Don’t get me wrong; Odom has always seemed like a sweet guy who had to cope with a very hard life, so I’m really glad to see him improving. But it won’t surprise me to see his recovery playing out on the E! network. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/72 "2015-10-19T16:46:29Z")
I wonder if a troubled guy like Lamar will cooperate in PT and OT? I went through rehab and then outpatient PT after knee surgery. It’s tough. PT hurts like hell and can be very frustrating. There were times I broke out in a cold sweat from the pain. The therapists have to do the range of motion exercises and its not fun. OT wasn’t bad. They helped me get ready to go back to daily life. I saw some patients in rehab work their asses off to get better and they did improve. We had a couple with attitudes. Cursing at the therapists. Demanding to go back to their room. One jerk in particular was sent home because he refused to leave his room for therapy. I was told he threw his water pitcher at the wall and that was the final straw. Maybe Lamar will treat PT and OT like he did basketball training? Work really hard no matter how frustrating it gets. I hope he does and that he gets better. > **[Lamar Odom -- He'll Survive With Months of Rehab ... Khloe Will Be By His Side](https://www.tmz.com/2015/10/19/lamar-odom-khloe-kardashian-survive-rehab/)** > > Lamar Odom will survive his near death experience but it will be a long, hard road, doctors say ... and we've learned Khloe will be with him the entire way. > [@](#): > > Doctors are telling Lamar’s friends and family rehabilitation will take many months, and they believe an undetermined amount of damage to his body will be permanent. > > We’re told Lamar will have physical, speech, and other therapists working with him for the foreseeable future. > > As for Khloe, our sources say she has vowed to stay with him through the entire ordeal … and that includes all therapy. ---
**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/73 "2015-10-19T23:31:37Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > …Don’t get me wrong; Odom has always seemed like a sweet guy who had to cope with a very hard life, so I’m really glad to see him improving. Despite his demons and difficulties in life, not one coach, commentator, or fellow athlete has said anything bad about him, telling only stories of his kindness, saying they never heard him say a negative thing about another human being … if only he could treat himself as well as he treats others. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/74 "2015-10-19T23:48:39Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > Yes, those Kardashians do guard their privacy so, don’t they? 😉 The _doctors_ won’t be sharing with the public. What the Kardashians do is beyond anyone’s control. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/75 "2015-10-20T00:21:06Z")
I’m glad they are looking out for him, (though I’m not a fan), as it sounds like he doesn’t have anyone to do so. But wasn’t it being in their vortex of limelight and fame, that kinda unleashed his demons to begin with? Seems like danger is swirling all around the poor man. Glad his health is improving, he’s proving very resilient. I suppose it shouldn’t be surprising when you hear all he’s suffered through his life. Takes a lot of strength to live through I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/76 "2015-10-20T00:38:56Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > But wasn’t it being in their vortex of limelight and fame, that kinda unleashed his demons to begin with? The women he was with at the ranch just before the final binge are claiming that he was extremely upset by an episode of KUWTK that ran that night, where he talked to Khloe and ‘begged’ her not to share their phone calls in front of the camera crew (obviously she did anyway). They spoke a few times about the recent loss of his friend and the struggles he was going through, and he didn’t want that to be part of the show. While I’m sure incidents like that didn’t help, the poor guy had his demons long before he became involved with the Kardashian clan. I hope the medical staff works on those alongside his physical issues, since he’s kind of a captive audience for the next few months. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/77 "2015-10-20T01:12:15Z")
[QUOTE=G0sp3l;] I would there there hundreds if not thousands of private red flags that should have warned the people around him. [/QUOTE] Warned them to do what? ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/78 "2015-10-20T02:33:19Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Warned them to do what? Warned them, or perhaps alerted would have been a better word, that maybe Lamar needed to be spoken to about his choices. Maybe someone did, maybe not. If so, it doesn’t seem to have stuck. I am not trying to excuse LO’s behavior, ultimately he and he alone is responsible for his actions but I think that you should try a harder to get through to the people you claim to care about. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/79 "2015-10-20T02:55:01Z")
And you know, that many people didn’t make valiant attempts, how? Because they didn’t broadcast it? Because you didn’t hear about it? Really? ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605/80 "2015-10-20T03:17:58Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > And you know, that many people didn’t make valiant attempts, how? Because they didn’t broadcast it? Because you didn’t hear about it? Really? No shit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lamar-odom-found-unconscious-in-a-nevada-brothel/734605.md?page=5)