# lame 'naked archelologist' pitting **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 16, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588 "2009-01-16T13:43:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/41 "2009-01-16T20:00:02Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > So the Naked Archaeologist is neither Naked nor an Archaeologist? > > He should do a special on artifacts from The Holy Roman Empire. I see what you did there 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/42 "2009-01-16T20:28:02Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > He often admits that he’s at odds with other scholars. The word “other” does not belong in that sentence. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/43 "2009-01-16T20:34:46Z")
> [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](#): > > He is fucking up information. So are you, to a lesser extent. > > **Dio** , good to know. I hadn’t really heard of him before. I have seen some pretty whacked-out stuff from actual archaeologists and prehistorians, though.. how so, i am identifying what he claims to be alphabetic as glyphic, as was plainly seen in the footage … :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/44 "2009-01-16T20:56:11Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > he is an Israeli > [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > No, he is a Canadian. He’s a Jewish Canadian who was born in Israel. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/45 "2009-01-16T20:59:07Z")
> [@Katriona](#): > > Yeah, the tag line is that he “lays history bare.” -back. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/46 "2009-01-16T22:34:38Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > So the Naked Archaeologist is neither Naked nor an Archaeologist? > > He should do a special on artifacts from The Holy Roman Empire. He did. It was a one hour special on American Movie Classics. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/47 "2009-01-16T22:39:28Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > what a fucking jackass … heis in some turquoise mine looking for grafitti … > > so he fids some, he claims to be alphabetical, and mentioning the single diety ‘el’ … > > so there he is pointing it out. > > Oddly enough, it is written vertically, not horizontally .. and i see : > > the wavy line glyph that is water > the funny glyph that is an arch on top of a square > the funny shepherds crook glyph > the sort of oblong oval ‘hand’ glyph > > sorry, it has been too many years since i played with the egyptian book of the dead that had the heiroglyphs, transliterations and translations, but I recognize the damned things … > > what the fucking hell? does he think we are all idiots that cant recognize heiroglyphics when we see them? **aruvqan** , you are clearly somewhat better educated than average. Why do you eschew capitalization? It makes your posts vexing to read and diminishes your credibility to no purpose I can see. I don’t mean to be snarky; I am simply curious. ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/48 "2009-01-16T23:13:28Z")
> **[Egyptian hieroglyphs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_hieroglyphs)** > > Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs (/ˈhaɪ.roʊ.ˌɡlɪfs/, HY-roh-glifs) were the formal writing system used in Ancient Egypt for writing the Egyptian language. Hieroglyphs combined ideographic, logographic, syllabic, and alphabetic elements, with more than 1,000 distinct characters. Cursive hieroglyphs were used for religious literature on papyrus and wood. The later hieratic and demotic Egyptian scripts were derived from hieroglyphic writing, as was the Proto-Sinaitic script that later evolve The use of ... > [@](#): > > Hieroglyphs consist of three kinds of glyphs: phonetic glyphs, including single-consonant characters that functioned like an alphabet; logographs, representing morphemes; and determinatives, which narrowed down the meaning of a logographic or phonetic words. > … > It is a complex system, writing figurative, symbolic, and phonetic all at once, in the same text, the same phrase, I would almost say in the same word. > … > **Most hieroglyphic signs are phonetic in nature** , meaning the sign is read independent of its visual characteristics (according to the rebus principle where, for example, the picture of an eye could stand for the English words eye and I [the first person pronoun]). Phonograms are formed, whether with one consonant (signs called mono- or uniliteral) or by two consonants (biliteral signs) or by three (triliteral signs). The twenty-four uniliteral signs make up the so-called hieroglyphic alphabet. Since Egyptian hieroglyphic writing does not normally indicate vowels, in contrast, for example, to cuneiform, it could perhaps be argued that it is a variety of abjad. > > Thus, hieroglyphic writing representing a duck is read in Egyptian as sȝ, the consonants of the word for this animal. Nevertheless, it is also possible to use the hieroglyph of the duck without a link to the meaning in order to represent the phonemes sȝ, independent of any vowels which could accompany these consonants, and in this way write the words: sȝ, “son,” or when complemented by other signs detailed further in the text, sȝ, “keep, watch”; and sȝṯ.w, “hard ground”. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/49 "2009-01-17T01:20:20Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > **aruvqan** , you are clearly somewhat better educated than average. Why do you eschew capitalization? It makes your posts vexing to read and diminishes your credibility to no purpose I can see. > > I don’t mean to be snarky; I am simply curious. dealing with sore hands from this freaking cold, so i am typing oddly, sorry. or im channeling eecummings [is that the guy? i cant remember off hand :smack:] ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/50 "2009-01-17T01:39:36Z")
> [@sailor](#): > > [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian\_hieroglyphsHieroglyphs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_hieroglyphsHieroglyphs) consist of three kinds of glyphs: phonetic glyphs, including single-consonant characters that functioned like an alphabet; logographs, representing morphemes; and determinatives, which narrowed down the meaning of a logographic or phonetic words. > … > It is a complex system, writing figurative, symbolic, and phonetic all at once, in the same text, the same phrase, I would almost say in the same word. > … > Most hieroglyphic signs are phonetic in nature, meaning the sign is read independent of its visual characteristics (according to the rebus principle where, for example, the picture of an eye could stand for the English words eye and I [the first person pronoun]). Phonograms are formed, whether with one consonant (signs called mono- or uniliteral) or by two consonants (biliteral signs) or by three (triliteral signs). The twenty-four uniliteral signs make up the so-called hieroglyphic alphabet. Since Egyptian hieroglyphic writing does not normally indicate vowels, in contrast, for example, to cuneiform, it could perhaps be argued that it is a variety of abjad. > > Thus, hieroglyphic writing representing a duck is read in Egyptian as sȝ, the consonants of the word for this animal. Nevertheless, it is also possible to use the hieroglyph of the duck without a link to the meaning in order to represent the phonemes sȝ, independent of any vowels which could accompany these consonants, and in this way write the words: sȝ, “son,” or when complemented by other signs detailed further in the text, sȝ, “keep, watch”; and sȝṯ.w, “hard ground”. and as i said originally, the scratchings on the rock were recognizable as egyptian hiroglyphs that were on common use by egyptians … the ‘water’ squiggly line, the square and arch, the shepherds crook and the hand. they did not use the quicky shorthand common use symbols, nor jewis protoamharic. the slaves that might have been jewish use purely egyptian hieroglyphs. his babblings would have been way more believable if the writing had not been pure hieroglyph. any random egyptian born and bred [heh] egyptian could have scribbled graffiti in hieroglyphs. and yes i know how to _use_ hieroglyphs as single letters and as words and components … for a period of some 5 years i was the only one who ever borrowed e a wallis budge’s book on hieroglyphs out of the librabry … actually i was the only one who had borrowed it for some 35 or so years. ---
**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/51 "2009-01-18T00:40:30Z")
I don’t think I’ve seen this show, but hey, as far as one-trick ponies go, who was that one “archeologist” who thought everything pointed to cannibalism in ancient societies? He was nice too look at, but soooo predictable. ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/52 "2009-01-18T15:04:04Z")
I did a YouTube search: The first clip has the title “The Naked Archaeologist Preview - Crucifixion He’s the Ali G of archaeology!” ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/53 "2009-01-19T02:22:37Z")
Aha. “The Naked Archaeologist” is the name of a TV show. That clears up a lot. You don’t want to know what I thought was going on before I realized this. -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/54 "2009-01-19T12:49:34Z")
> [@TroubleAgain](#): > > I don’t think I’ve seen this show, but hey, as far as one-trick ponies go, who was that one “archeologist” who thought everything pointed to cannibalism in ancient societies? He was nice too look at, but soooo predictable. Unfortunately, the pitee doesn’t even have that going for him. ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/55 "2009-01-21T02:51:20Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > dealing with sore hands from this freaking cold Boy, you must have a sneeze like a snowblower. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/56 "2009-01-23T04:30:56Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > and yes i know how to _use_ hieroglyphs as single letters and as words and components … for a period of some 5 years i was the only one who ever borrowed e a wallis budge’s book on hieroglyphs out of the librabry … actually i was the only one who had borrowed it for some 35 or so years. HA-hah, as Nelson Muntz might say. Bought MINE at a used book store! [/self-satisfied gloating] [/reveling in the fact that, in this case, “self-satisfied gloating” could hardly be more geekish] ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/57 "2009-01-23T19:51:22Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > He’s a Jewish Canadian who was born in Israel. He’s a floor wax\* and\* a dessert topping! ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588/58 "2009-01-24T00:08:00Z")
> [@Askance](#): > > Boy, you must have a sneeze like a snowblower. no, arthritis so my mobility sucks. the cold seems to settle in and i end up typing with one finger on each hand. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lame-naked-archelologist-pitting/481588.md?page=2)