# Landscaping Help **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 16, 2007, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/landscaping-help/415807 "2007-08-16T13:14:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/landscaping-help/415807/21 "2007-08-16T18:12:48Z")
[QUOTE=MeanJoe] 2.) If I do not build up the beds but just want to reloacte some items, what is the best time to do this? How do I minimize risk to damaging the plants? [/QUOTE] According to [this site](http://www.peonies.org/faq.html), fall is the best time to transplant peonies. > [@](#): > > The best and safest time to move your peony is in the fall. The day before, give your peony a good soaking in order to make digging easier. Be certain to dig well away from the crown of the plant & try to get as many roots as possible. Once you have the plant from the ground, remove all the foliage & wash the root ball so the crown and roots are visible. If your peony has been in the same location for several years, it maybe possible that you can divide to make more plants. Using a sharp knife, cut the plant into divisions with at least 5 eyes or buds each. Now you can re-plant the divisions in the locations of your choice and you can add fertilizer to the soil at this time. Make certain that the eyes are no deeper than 2" below the soil level. The plant also appreciates mulch during the first winter. This lessens the chance of heaving which can damage the new plant. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/landscaping-help/415807/22 "2007-08-16T19:05:10Z")
[QUOTE=MeanJoe] Pittsburgh? Monroeville? Squirrel Hill? 😉 Kidding - Sorry, I saw western PA and assumed Pittsburgh area. [/QUOTE] hehe. Actually, I spend time in all three locations. But I know a sign painter and was going to compute distance/direction to other spots I like: St Maarten, Hilton Head, etc. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/landscaping-help/415807/23 "2007-08-16T19:50:55Z")
[QUOTE=Plynck] According to [this site](http://www.peonies.org/faq.html), fall is the best time to transplant peonies. [/QUOTE] Thank you, very informative! Now, what are eyes and crowns again? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/landscaping-help/415807/24 "2007-08-16T19:52:33Z")
[QUOTE=Duck Duck Goose] You’ll still get weeds in the gravel. She said dourly. 😃 [/QUOTE] Sounds like someone is having a case of the Monday’s. (on a Thursday no less!). I kid, I kid. The gravel will be an ongoing maintenance issue but only incrementally more than I have now there (bare dirty and weeds). MeanJoe ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/landscaping-help/415807/25 "2007-08-17T01:27:45Z")
The edging looks like rubber or plastic. That often works its way loose. Steel edging is better, it will stay where it belongs. Is it bark mulch? That gets scattered easily, and it’s impossible to clean up fallen leaves without raking up a lot of the mulch. River rock is the way to go. ---
**Author:** ![elelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@elelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelle)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/landscaping-help/415807/26 "2007-08-17T02:46:04Z")
I’ve read this all, and so many folks giving good advice. Joe; my particular questions would be: what is the light situation there? Morning light or afternoon, or dappled the whole day. Are the plants you have there doing well? ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/landscaping-help/415807/27 "2007-08-17T17:11:51Z")
[QUOTE=elelle] I’ve read this all, and so many folks giving good advice. Joe; my particular questions would be: what is the light situation there? Morning light or afternoon, or dappled the whole day. Are the plants you have there doing well? [/QUOTE] There where? Flower bed in the picture is dappled with more morning/noon light. Plants that do not require lots of sun or require shade seem to be doing well there. The peonis and such are nice and healthy, although smaller this year than last due to a late spring freeze/frost. In the area I want to add the gravel access and the new flower bed? That area is between the house and the large maple tree. It is mostly shaded. I have no illusions I’ll get pretty pansies or daisies or anything like that to grow there. I’ll be looking for mostly shade plants to fill in this spot, more hostas, ferns, etc. Overall, the yard is a mix due to the house/lot size and the mature maple, mulberry, and prunus trees which shades large sections of the yard at different times of the day. It is a challenge. 🙂 > [@](#): > > Mr. Duality said… > The edging looks like rubber or plastic. That often works its way loose. Steel edging is better, it will stay where it belongs. Correct, the edging is heavy-duty plastic. I trenched it out 4 inches deep and it is secured with 1 inch wide/flat metal spikes. It is pretty firmly secured but it was always a temporary measure to define the bed edges until I work out the larger landscaping design. I could not find steel edging locally. As for the mulch, it is mulch. Pros/Cons apply. I’m not a fan of hardscape stuff like rock in beds. > [@](#): > > Gorgonzola said… > I love your yardwork thus far. It looks great, and your dog is very sweet-looking. Why thank you. If I posted a picture of the “other” parts of the yard you may not feel the same way. However, I’m working on it! Mishka is very sweet-looking. It is all a part of his evil personality, look sweet as pie but be mischevious as possible. He takes after me I think. 😉 Thank you everyone for your advice so far, it is really appreciated. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/landscaping-help/415807/28 "2007-08-17T17:58:32Z")
Peony require full sun to really get any nice flowers from them, so judge the new place accordingly. Try to not break up the peony plant too small. This site had good information that I agree with. [http://www.paeonia.com/html/peonies/propagation.htm](http://www.paeonia.com/html/peonies/propagation.htm) [http://www.paeonia.com/html/peonies/grow.htm](http://www.paeonia.com/html/peonies/grow.htm) ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/landscaping-help/415807/29 "2007-08-17T19:26:43Z")
[QUOTE=Harmonious Discord] Peony require full sun to really get any nice flowers from them, so judge the new place accordingly. Try to not break up the peony plant too small. This site had good information that I agree with. [http://www.paeonia.com/html/peonies/propagation.htm](http://www.paeonia.com/html/peonies/propagation.htm) [http://www.paeonia.com/html/peonies/grow.htm](http://www.paeonia.com/html/peonies/grow.htm) [/QUOTE] Thanks, [here](http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/mjsmith0469/misc005.jpg) and [here](http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/mjsmith0469/misc004.jpg) some photos of them in bloom. Even though they get a mix of sun/shade, they bloom quite nicely I think. I’m planning to move the single peoni plant that to a spot within the row shown in the pictures. In its current location, it does not get as much sun as the rest and is therefore undersized and has small flowers (compared to the rest). Thanks for the links! Michael [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/landscaping-help/415807.md?page=1)