# Lane Kiffin Sucks! \*Trying not to flip out\*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 13, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809 "2010-01-13T18:17:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/41 "2010-01-14T19:39:29Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> A woman who fucks high school kids to get them to come and play football at her college just might be.

In my experience, that basically never happens. I knew a couple of girls who helped with the recruiting at my school, and that aspect of it was entirely overblown.  
Pardon the pun.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/42 "2010-01-14T21:07:31Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Yes. It’s just _precisely_ that simple.

Oh, so suddenly _I’m_ the jerk for calling out sexist language and attitudes in a subforum precisely dedicating to calling others out.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/43 "2010-01-14T21:09:51Z")

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No, you’re a jerk for deciding we must be sexist because we said something mean about a particular group of women.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/44 "2010-01-14T21:11:45Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> No, you’re a jerk for deciding we must be sexist because we said something mean about a particular group of women.

Oh well pardon me for assuming that when you use words that are generally only used by sexist creeps, that you’re a sexist creep.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/45 "2010-01-14T21:13:34Z")

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Next time you could just read the whole post and we wouldn’t have to go through this, would we?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/46 "2010-01-14T21:29:16Z")

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So, U of T hires an egotistical, selfish prick and then gets upset when the guy acts like … well an egotistical, selfish prick. Any Vol who didn’t see Kiffin running at the next good opportunity wasn’t paying attention.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/47 "2010-01-14T21:49:32Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> God, I really hate college football.

There’s a hell of a lot more to it than just the BCS schools. Most college football does not involve all that crap. Check it out sometime - is there a 1-AA school near you? You can get all the hoopla, all the pageantry, all the tailgating, all the fun, the football is pretty good, and the big money and all the bullshit it involves is absent. I love it. You can have the BCS and the rest of 1-A if you want - If I want to watch pro football, I’ll watch the NFL and see better games anyway.

Just to show nothing’s new, [here’s a 1987 story](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1066350/index.htm) on Florida’s “Gator Getters”, founded in 1962. There may be a third generation of them by now in some families.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/48 "2010-01-14T22:02:17Z")

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Vol fans, I feel for you, but come on! You knew Lane Kiffin was a scuzz monkey when you hired him! Big mouth, small brains.

Thank God for Mark Richt!

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/49 "2010-01-14T22:36:51Z")

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Word is that Duke’s Cutcliffe has been tapped to be new HC at UT. Seriously, that’s the best this premier SEC football school could do? I realize he was a fomer asst. under Fulmer and knows the school, but it’s not like he was shooting lights out at Duke. I would still not be happy if I was a UT fan.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/50 "2010-01-14T23:16:23Z")

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I long ago gave up looking at college coaches as anything but self serving opportunists. There is too much money in the game and the coaches make too much to stay clean.  
Mich. State just brought back 7 players who were arrested for assault and battery. This, before the trials which are coming up soon. I am sure the coach will talk about second chances, but it is about them helping the team win games.  
Kiffin has asked some recruits he was getting at Tenn. to follow him to USC. That is not allowed.

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/51 "2010-01-15T00:21:16Z")

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> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> Oh well pardon me for assuming that when you use words that are generally only used by sexist creeps, that you’re a sexist creep.

I have to declare this “teh win”.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/52 "2010-01-15T01:13:16Z")

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> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> Oh, so suddenly _I’m_ the jerk for calling out sexist language and attitudes in a subforum precisely dedicating to calling others out.

Not _suddenly_. 🙂

(This could go on indefinitely…)

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**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/53 "2010-01-15T02:27:23Z")

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As a Seattle Seahawks fan I have to say: Hahahahaha! Suck it USC!

As a Seattle Seahawks fan I also have to say: Oh shit. Pete Carroll is coming here? Fuck.

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/54 "2010-01-15T04:20:29Z")

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As a Seattle Seahawks fan I have found many reasons over the years to say “oh shit” and “fuck”.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/55 "2010-01-15T14:00:07Z")

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> [@Rack-a-Bones](#):
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> As a Seattle Seahawks fan I also have to say: Oh shit. Pete Carroll is coming here? Fuck.

Well, at least Matt Hasselbeck will pick up a nice tan.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/56 "2010-01-15T14:18:56Z")

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I posted this in the other thread, but it looks like Cutcliffe may have [turned down UT](http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4828327).

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/57 "2010-01-15T14:49:51Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> It appears some Tennessee students worked harder than others at the recruiting aspect under Lane Kiffin.
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> [But of course, he is **going** to a dirty program, not coming from one.](http://deadspin.com/5422400/tennessees-hostess-program-catches-recruits-and-ncaas-eyes-updated)

So other than the ‘Girls Gone Wild’ levels of shame and humiliation for thier families and fumbling highschooler sex, what exactly are these girls getting out of this?

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/58 "2010-01-15T14:56:16Z")

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Rumor has it Cutcliffe wanted to hire his own staff, UT told him he must keep some of the existing coaches. Also UT fans were upset , they wanted a bigger name than Cutcliffe.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/59 "2010-01-15T15:48:50Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> So other than the ‘Girls Gone Wild’ levels of shame and humiliation for thier families and fumbling highschooler sex, what exactly are these girls getting out of this?

A winning football program. What could be more important?

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lane-kiffin-sucks-trying-not-to-flip-out/524809/60 "2010-01-15T15:51:44Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> A winning football program.

Which still leaves the question of what the hostesses at UT were getting. 😃

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