# Lanterns (the green kind) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, hbomax-wb-dc\ **Created:** [August 17, 2026, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374 "2026-08-17T05:23:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2026, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/221 "2026-09-17T22:32:40Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > But if Hal wasn’t there she wouldn’t have done it. No, she would have performed some other atrocity. She doesn’t stop being a genocidal mass-murderer just because she also helped people who swore to become her servants. I don’t think she was **pure** evil; as in being incapable of acting or feeling good or kind. I think she actually liked some people. She seemed to like John Stewart. But it didn’t change what she was, it just added another layer to it. ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2026, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/222 "2026-09-17T22:38:47Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > The aliens knew she was there. They were coming regardless. I think she could have dealt with the aliens herself without too much trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2026, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/223 "2026-09-17T22:47:02Z")
Right, but the show centered on the fact that both the aliens and the Green Lanterns were sniffing around. If they had joined forces and planned they may have succeeded. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/224 "2026-09-18T10:41:32Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I don’t think she was **pure** evil; as in being incapable of acting or feeling good or kind. I think she actually liked some people. She seemed to like John Stewart. But it didn’t change what she was, it just added another layer to it. I think she was a basically nice person who put her own survival above anything else - she’d genuinely like you, but she’d still kill you if it increased her chance of surviving. And the thing that made her so inhuman is that she didn’t see any conflict in this. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/225 "2026-09-18T13:23:59Z")
That sounds like a pretty good summary to me. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/226 "2026-09-18T15:37:13Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > She seemed to like John Stewart The other aliens said that was always part of their strategy, seduce the biggest threat. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/227 "2026-09-18T16:29:30Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > The other aliens said that was always part of their strategy, seduce the biggest threat. I meant beyond the truck-lovin’; she seemed fond of him even outside of what use he could be to her. But maybe I’m reading too much into that. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/228 "2026-09-18T17:21:14Z")
The only thing I wouldn’t attribute to simple manipulation was the smile she gave right before dying. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/229 "2026-09-18T17:25:07Z")
That’s the specific moment that stays with me. Usually you’d expect rage, shock, some combination, but it was almost like she’s glad it was him that ended things. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/230 "2026-09-18T17:33:13Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I think she was a basically nice person who put her own survival above anything else - she’d genuinely like you, but she’d still kill you if it increased her chance of surviving. And the thing that made her so inhuman is that she didn’t see any conflict in this. I think she regarded the human occupants of the town as we might regard domesticated animals. She had affection and even love for her “pets”, but when push comes to shove, they could be sacrificed if needed. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/231 "2026-09-18T18:47:43Z")
I think you’re humanizing her. She was just a machine following its programming. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/232 "2026-09-18T19:06:43Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That’s the specific moment that stays with me. Usually you’d expect rage, shock, some combination, but it was almost like she’s glad it was him that ended things. What’s interesting is that Antonn called out that the manhunter wouldn’t accept death. Which makes me think she has something else planned. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/233 "2026-09-18T19:11:20Z")
She still has something planned? Even after John pulled out her crystallized heart? I thought there was no going back from that. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/234 "2026-09-18T19:14:01Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > They had already attacked the town BEFORE Hal showed up and threatened to nuke it if they had to. Hal was the only person there actually trying to help anyone. Nitpick. They _infiltrated_ trying to sus out who the Manhunter was. Mason’s men were the ones who did the attacking. You’re right about Hal though. He had his flaws, but he kept trying to be a good guy. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/235 "2026-09-18T19:28:36Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > She still has something planned? Even after John pulled out her crystallized heart? I thought there was no going back from that. Something involving Billy and Noah presumably. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/236 "2026-09-19T14:34:00Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That’s the specific moment that stays with me. Usually you’d expect rage, shock, some combination, but it was almost like she’s glad it was him that ended things. That’s what it looked like, but they’d only met each other like 3-4 times. The other alternative is that she was tired of always running and hiding and was glad for it to be over. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/237 "2026-09-19T15:50:06Z")
Green Lantern First Flight is pretty good. It’s a classic Hal Jordan/Sinestro origin story and plays like an outer space Training Day. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/238 "2026-09-19T18:06:36Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > The other alternative is that she was tired of always running and hiding and was glad for it to be over. Also very possible. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/239 "2026-09-19T18:31:26Z")
Or we’ll start getting flashbacks to 1986. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/240 "2026-09-19T18:37:58Z")
She was okay with dying if it meant John and Hal thought it was over. Noah is the continuation of her programming. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374.md?page=13)