# Lanterns (the green kind) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, hbomax-wb-dc\ **Created:** [August 17, 2026, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374 "2026-08-17T05:23:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2026, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/401 "2026-10-08T23:56:22Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > It’s also very likely that we’ve given this more thought than Lindeloff did. I think that’s almost certain. 😆 > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I think Hal had to explicitly back up his consciousness to the ring, which is why the Halogram was ten years old. That was my earlier point, yes. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/402 "2026-10-09T01:46:16Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > John says that charging the ring will mean the end of Hal but he doesn’t explain why. Sinestro is the one that says this. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > which is why the Halogram was ten years old. 20 years actually at the end of the show. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/403 "2026-10-09T04:25:25Z")
I think it’s been [stated explicitly](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/lanterns-finale-john-stewart-hal-jordan-1236721962/) on the show that the Halogram would be erased by John’s taking ownership of the ring: > John has been hesitating all episode because Sinestro confirmed that Halogram will cease to be once John syncs the ring with the new lantern. Personally, I thought this is just basically an automatic reset to factory settings. You wanna get rid of the browser history before you pass on your old device. Presumably the normal order of things would be once the ring’s old user dies, the ring seeks out a new candidate, takes them to Oa, where perhaps the old backup is taken into central storage, or something—otherwise, deleting the backup once a new user syncs would rather defeat the purpose. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/404 "2026-10-09T12:57:35Z")
I just finished bingeing the show and I liked it. I’m glad the story mostly took place in one area and didn’t go bebopping and scatting all over outer spce. As a kid, I thought Green Lantern was pretty lame (hitting things with a boxing glove is kind of boring, weakness to yellow is dumb, Sinster-O’s sounds like an evil breakfast cereal, etc.), although my brother had a digest of Green Lantern Corps stories that weren’t bad (including “Mogo Doesn’t Socialize”). So I was happy they toned down most of the sillier aspects, or acknowledged them up front (“One of them is a squirrel”). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/405 "2026-10-09T13:26:39Z")
I’m still waiting for Killowog. He’s my favorite. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/406 "2026-10-09T13:53:32Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > The rings have to be charged pretty frequently to keep working, Heh, more than once watching the show, the thought crossed my mind “Jeez Louise, for super advanced alien technology, them darn rings gotta be charged more often than my old iPhone 6 before I finally broke down and bought a new one” 😏 ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/407 "2026-10-09T13:55:17Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Heh, more than once watching the show, the thought crossed my mind “Jeez Louise, for super advanced alien technology, them darn rings gotta be charged more often than my old iPhone 6 before I finally broke down and bought a new one” 😏 Yeah, but a Power Ring can do a lot of things even the latest iPhone can’t. As long as you don’t run it down playing Candy Crush forever, or using the “flashlight” feature. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/408 "2026-10-09T14:00:51Z")
Well, the comic is _Green_ _ **Lantern** _, after all. Not _Green Ring_ or _Green Hero Guy_. > The original Green Lantern was created by an American artist named [Martin Nodell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Nodell "Martin Nodell").[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott#cite_note-4) Nodell mentions [Richard Wagner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wagner "Richard Wagner")’s opera cycle _[The Ring of the Nibelung](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Ring_des_Nibelungen "Der Ring des Nibelungen")_ and the sight of a trainman’s green railway lantern as his inspiration.[[5]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott#cite_note-5) (From [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott).) So they need some excuse to show the _real_ main character. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/409 "2026-10-09T14:03:44Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > he will continue to have Halogram (I love that name) available as a mentor/resource. Now that we know Halogram, the Guardian’s decision to make John Hal’s trainee makes a lot more sense. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/410 "2026-10-09T15:40:40Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Heh, more than once watching the show, the thought crossed my mind “Jeez Louise, for super advanced alien technology, them darn rings gotta be charged more often than my old iPhone 6 before I finally broke down and bought a new one” 😏 Originally, the ring had to be charged every twenty-four hours. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/411 "2026-10-09T15:47:04Z")
Ok, that’s about half as often as my old iPhone 6 before I finally replaced it. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/412 "2026-10-09T15:47:58Z")
Aks/Ax/Axe _is_ a UK thing. It’s pronounced that way in large parts of Ireland and Scotland and some parts of England. Which is ironically how it became a black thing. Wherever there were black slaves mingling with Irish/Scottish indentured servants, you’ll find modern black people who say ‘aks’. Or ‘arks’ like I grew up saying in the Caribbean. And, given how many Caribbean people immigrated to England (including Aaron Pierre’s family), it’s not that uncommon among black people there either. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/413 "2026-10-09T15:57:14Z")
The axe issue has [multiple threads](https://www.reddit.com/r/LanternsTVSeries/search/?q=Axe&cId=ce33c742-985d-426a-94d2-c635f85a8baa&iId=13511cbe-a983-43b3-a1ae-51149c97644c) dedicated to it in the Reddit group. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/414 "2026-10-09T16:26:54Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > When Zoey healed John, she said the machine needed a skin sample to regrow his skin. Why that spot didn’t heal as well wasn’t explained. Of course, the out of story reason is that it’s a bit of shorthand for “a Manhunter just healed you.” I think it’s the writers reserving the right to resurrect as necessary. DNA sample . . . Manhunter tech . . . waves hand. . . ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2026, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/415 "2026-10-09T16:32:28Z")
Okay. I just learned something. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2026, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/416 "2026-10-10T08:06:45Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > Aks/Ax/Axe _is_ a UK thing. It’s pronounced that way in large parts of Ireland and Scotland and some parts of England. Live in England, grew up in Scotland, lived in Ireland for a short while, never really heard it outside kids at a bus stop pretending to be gangsters in England, so not even a thing in normal life. Anyway, its veered far too OT on this one. It didn’t annoy me THAT much. Just minor irks. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2026, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/417 "2026-10-21T11:58:09Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > OK, so then he sets up his sniper’s nest and camps out. He camps out for NINE MONTHS. Nine. Months. He eats, during this time, “nuts and berries.” He’s a vegan, and the show suggests that he’s not eating big game (he’s not bothered by a nut and berry diet because of this). > > This location was so difficult to get into that they had to drop him off during a thunderstorm, so it’s not like can forage for miles. Plus he’s looking through the gun scope all the time. > > Nine months. 800,000+ calories. Where are these calories coming from? Why did they pick such a ridiculous timeline? > > This is cartoon writing. [I read about this guy today,](https://militarnyi.com/en/news/491-days-the-story-of-kostyantyn-vlasenko/) and thought of all of you who had trouble accepting the nine-month-stakeout story. I grew up on stories of men like this, and that part of the show never really stood out to me. (Totally not picking on Steronz here, it’s just the first example I landed on.) ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2026, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/418 "2026-10-21T17:54:47Z")
That guy sounds badass, but my complaint was really about the lack of available calories. There’s tough, and then there’s biology. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2026, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/419 "2026-10-21T17:59:40Z")
If you’re wondering how he eats and breathes and other science facts… They knew where he was going to be. Maybe they left a supply cache, or they air dropped the supplies separately, or maybe a million other ways he got food. It’s not really important to the story, so they don’t need to explain every single thing that happened over 9 months. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2026, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374/420 "2026-10-21T18:08:40Z")
Meh, better writing would have had me invested in his badassness rather than being bored and wondering what was going on in the writers’ room. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lanterns-the-green-kind/1032374.md?page=22)