# LAPD as judge, jury, and executioner **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 9, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787 "2013-02-09T15:07:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/261 "2013-02-12T17:43:50Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > congratulations on getting your head out of your ass long enough to accomplish something. I also magically stopped you from posting those answers you totally have because you’re not trying to annoy people. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/262 "2013-02-12T18:03:07Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Marley and the rest of us have lives, so please don’t. No one is forcing you to reply. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/263 "2013-02-12T18:04:09Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I also magically stopped you from posting those answers you totally have because you’re not trying to annoy people. No, you’re just distracting and irritating. Back off moron, I’ll reply whenever it is convenient to me. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/264 "2013-02-12T18:27:03Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > I’ll reply whenever it is convenient to me. So stay on the edge of your seats, everybody! It’s coming any minute, right after **Pedro** sleeps, goes to work, buys some new toe socks, licks some toads and stares at his hands on the old school playground for a few hours. This is definitely what people do when they have a simple and logical argument: they get distracted over and over and tell people ‘I’m coming back soon!’ Back off and give **Pedro** space for his exegesis about the Dorner case, everybody. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/265 "2013-02-12T18:29:06Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > So stay on the edge of your seats, everybody! It’s coming any minute, right after **Pedro** sleeps, goes to work, buys some new toe socks, licks some toads and stares at his hands on the old school playground for a few hours. This is definitely what people do when they have a simple and logical argument: they get distracted over and over and tell people ‘I’m coming back soon!’ Back off and give **Pedro** space for his exegesis about the Dorner case, everybody. Still trying to play to the crowd, I see, like the loser you are. You’re just distracting and annoying now. And a sour loser. For a while it was fun bitch-slapping you though. So thanks for that! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/266 "2013-02-12T18:32:05Z")
I know it often takes me days to respond to simple questions. One time it took me a week to figure out what I wanted for lunch. Saying stuff is hard! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/267 "2013-02-12T18:34:45Z")
I can’t even figure out what you all are fighting over. Something something Dorner something. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/268 "2013-02-12T18:36:19Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I know it often takes me days to respond to simple questions. One time it took me a week to figure out what I wanted for lunch. Saying stuff is hard! I relish the thought that your embarassing loser behaviour will be forever here for anyone to see. Please never go dark SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/269 "2013-02-12T18:49:44Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > I can’t even figure out what you all are fighting over. Nothing really. **Pedro** sorta kinda thinks this is the LAPD’s fault and Dorner’s been wrong and his murders might be understandable, but he won’t say how or why because it’s dumb and because at best it’s an ‘I hate the cops’ gut reaction. He’s too embarrassed to admit it, so he’s pretending he has some great arguments he hasn’t gotten around to posting and is trying to cover the embarrassment with lame insults. Now he’s finally resorted to the ultimate in ironic tactics: saying someone you’re arguing with on the Internet is a loser. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/270 "2013-02-12T18:57:18Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > And if you (and I mean general you here, not **Marley23** , not anyone in specific - I don’t think that breaks any pit rules) ask me if that justifies murder, fuck you. [Moderating] Your assumption is incorrect. Knock it off. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/271 "2013-02-12T19:01:48Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Nothing really. **Pedro** sorta kinda thinks this is the LAPD’s fault and Dorner’s been wrong and his murders might be understandable, but he won’t say how or why because it’s dumb and because at best it’s an ‘I hate the cops’ gut reaction. He’s too embarrassed to admit it, so he’s pretending he has some great arguments he hasn’t gotten around to posting and is trying to cover the embarrassment with lame insults. Now he’s finally resorted to the ultimate in ironic tactics: saying someone you’re arguing with on the Internet is a loser. Man, I just can’t seem to look away and miss all these nuggets of wisdom you’re dropping. My fault really. By the way I’m certain you are a loser off the Internet too. If only. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/272 "2013-02-12T19:07:05Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [Moderating] > Your assumption is incorrect. Knock it off. > [/Moderating] Dumb rule but OK, I apologize to you then for my incorrect assumption, since you were fair and square with me before. However there is nothing to knock off, since I didn’t think I was breaking any rules. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/273 "2013-02-12T19:34:34Z")
Interesting take… ---
**Author:** ![conway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@conway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/conway)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/274 "2013-02-12T19:35:18Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > There was another officer, or set of officers, who shot at another truck that looked nothing like Dorner’s. It was a grey Honda Ridgeline. Now, at least the color matched, but if you’ve ever seen a Ridgeline you know that it looks _nothing_ like a Nissan Titan. Like…the only other vehicle that even remotely looks like the Ridgeline is the (I think now defunct?) Chevy Avalanche. Just to clarify, this wasn’t the LAPD, but the Torrance Police Department. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/275 "2013-02-12T19:43:49Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I’ll also note (and this isn’t directed at Pedro ) it’s amazingly disgusting that the leftist excrement here on the SDMB have transformed their childish hatred for all police into making jokes and thinking it’s funny this guy killed two people who were parking their car and never even met Dorner or had anything to do with him. Not to mention the fact that he’s still out there and possibly going to kill more people that have nothing to do with the police before he’s done. That’s like cheering on the people blowing up train stations in Spain or buses in London because you didn’t like George Bush. Allow me the first to express disapproval of killing innocent people due to gripes over racism. In fact, I disapprove of killing guilty parties too (being against the death penalty and all). Nor do I approve of blowing up train stations or buses, for that matter, whether ex-head of states are in them or not. Well, perhaps abandoned train stations for the purposes of demolition. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/276 "2013-02-12T19:45:10Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Interesting take… You mean the “knock it off” thing" I said? I think it’s clear I was talking about intent. Anyway it’s not very important and it could have been phrased better. **Miller** , sorry. I will be more careful from now on. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/277 "2013-02-12T20:02:32Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > You mean the “knock it off” thing" I said? I think it’s clear I was talking about intent. Anyway it’s not very important and it could have been phrased better. > > **Miller** , sorry. I will be more careful from now on. No, it’s the “fuck you” that’s against the rules. From Ed. > [@](#): > > * * * > > The following expressions should not be directed at other posters. > > cunt and variants, e.g., cuntlapper > motherfucker > cocksucker > fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die > suck/lick my dick/cock and variants Here’s the whole post from 2009. > **[Restricted language in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858)** > > The following expressions should not be directed at other posters. cunt and variants, e.g., cuntlapper motherfucker cocksucker fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die suck/lick my dick/cock and variants Expressions not... ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/278 "2013-02-12T20:12:30Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > How long did it take you to think of that? SAME TO YOU, PAL. Fuck you, clown! That’s what I shoulda said… ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/279 "2013-02-12T20:39:56Z")
To recap we’re at the point where **Pedro** has said (pages ago) that he think Chris Dorner “represented what the LAPD should stand for.” He has gathered this opinion by reading Dorner’s manifesto. He _believes_ what Dorner is saying in his manifesto to be true. Basically that the LAPD _made_ Dorner this way, so the murders are wrong, but his manifesto is right. I, and others on this board, have read the manifesto too and decided that he was unstable for being a cop to begin with. We are waiting to hear why Pedro got the impression from this manifesto that he got. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/280 "2013-02-12T20:44:13Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > No, it’s the “fuck you” that’s against the rules. I know. I think **Vinyl Turnip** was implying… something? Anyway if you squint really hard my “knock off” addendum could make the whole thing seem insincere and I really meant to apologize because **Miller** is correct, I did err, twice. So: **Miller** , sorry. I will be more careful from now on using that curse word, never directed at other posters. Oh crap, now I think I may be swinging it involuntarily into sarcasm! :eek: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787.md?page=15)