# LAPD as judge, jury, and executioner **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 9, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787 "2013-02-09T15:07:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/301 "2013-02-12T22:58:38Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > When in a hole, stop digging. > Also, get a sense of humor. I don’t see a hole and maybe I missed the joke. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/302 "2013-02-12T23:11:21Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > They’re saying he’s barricaded in a cabin and may have hostages. I thought I saw CNN flash a chiron that said news helicopters were being ordered out of the area, which was interesting. I can’t remember ever seeing that before. If that’s happening I assume the police are getting ready to come for him if they can and they want to keep him in the dark. Or, maybe they’d rather a news chopper didn’t get shot down… or at. And, let’s hope he doesn’t have internet access. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/303 "2013-02-12T23:13:53Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Or, maybe they’d rather a news chopper didn’t get shot down… or at. And, let’s hope he doesn’t have internet access. They’ve confirmed that they have asked the media not to show any live footage of the area, and CNN at least is complying. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/304 "2013-02-12T23:17:45Z")
From [LA Times:](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/dorner-shootout-big-bear-hundreds-shots.html) > [@](#): > > LA Times: "“Hundreds of rounds” were exchanged in about half an hour during the gun battle between fugitive former police officer Christopher Dorner and law enforcement officers Tuesday afternoon, sources said. > > At least two San Bernardino County sheriff’s deputies were wounded, sources said. Their conditions were not immediately known. > > Days ago, Dorner broke into a cabin off Route 38, a source said. He allegedly tied up the couple inside and held them hostage until Tuesday morning when he left. It is unclear whether Dorner stole their vehicle or another, but Fish and Wildlife officers knew to be on the lookout for a white pickup truck when they spotted Dorner driving one and attempted to stop him, the source said. > > … > > Dorner crashed the truck during the ensuing chase and allegedly exchanged gunfire with the officers as he fled into another cabin, where he was quickly surrounded by San Bernardino sheriff’s deputies. The source said one deputy was hit as Dorner fired out of the cabin and a second was injured when Dorner exited the back of the cabin, deployed a smoke bomb and opened fire again in an apparent attempt to flee. Dorner was driven back inside the cabin, the source said." So, Pedro, is the LAPD responsible for Dorner holding people hostage for 4 days in their home? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/305 "2013-02-12T23:24:14Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > I don’t see a hole and maybe I missed the joke. You don’t see the hole because you’re in it, and you are in grave danger of becoming the joke. Go take a walk. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/306 "2013-02-12T23:34:25Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > They’re saying he’s barricaded in a cabin and may have hostages. I thought I saw CNN flash a chiron that said news helicopters were being ordered out of the area, which was interesting. I can’t remember ever seeing that before. If that’s happening I assume the police are getting ready to come for him if they can and they want to keep him in the dark. Or… Perhaps the head of the organization has ordered this because he does not want the media to see when he trains the giant mutagen beam onto the cabin, reducing everything within into a pile of random protein and DNA. Mua ha ha ha ha ha! ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/307 "2013-02-12T23:42:27Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > You don’t see the hole because you’re in it, and you are in grave danger of becoming the joke. > > Go take a walk. Grave danger? I don’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/308 "2013-02-12T23:45:26Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Grave danger? I don’t think so. Yeah, I’d say it’s more of a trench. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/309 "2013-02-12T23:47:57Z")
> [@colander](#): > > Yeah, I’d say it’s more of a trench. Well, a pit, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/310 "2013-02-13T00:32:18Z")
One of the deputies Dorner shot today has died. On the lighter side, the woman who owns the cabin he was in (and allegedly set on fire himself in perhaps a suicide attempt) was sitting down with her daughter in her OTHER home and saw her cabin on the news surrounded by cops. “My curtains!” ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/311 "2013-02-13T01:51:20Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Why are you trying to hijack this thread about **Pedro**? > [@Pedro](#): > > Seriously? You have the gall to say that when I politely proposed moving the conversation elsewhere so as not to hijack it and was shotdown by Marley with an insult? You truly have no integrity. I guess you found one of my buttons to push. So at least I give you credit for that. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/312 "2013-02-13T02:02:44Z")
They say nobody has left the cabin, and it’s starting to sound like they think Dorner shot himself some time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/313 "2013-02-13T02:13:34Z")
Local papers are reporting him dead. > **[Paranoid personality disorder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder)** > > Paranoid personality disorder (PPD) is a mental disorder characterized by paranoia, and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of others. People with this personality disorder may be hypersensitive, easily insulted, and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues or suggestions that may validate their fears or biases. They are eager observers and they often think they are in danger and look for signs and threats of that danger, pote... > [@](#): > > It is characterized by at least three of the following: > > ``` > excessive sensitivity to setbacks and rebuffs; > > ``` > > \*\* tendency to bear grudges persistently, i.e. refusal to forgive insults and injuries or slights;\*\* > **suspiciousness and a pervasive tendency to distort experience by misconstruing the neutral or friendly actions of others as hostile or contemptuous;** > \*\* a combative and tenacious sense of personal rights out of keeping with the actual situation;\*\* > **recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding sexual fidelity of spouse or sexual partner;** > tendency to experience excessive self-importance, manifest in a persistent self-referential attitude; He seems to have been fairly skilled at keeping his disorder hidden. Otherwise, how could have got through basic training? So he went down in a literal blaze. He didn’t deserve this degree of attention or respect. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/314 "2013-02-13T02:16:15Z")
Whattaya think? Think this is so radioactive that even the most batshit wingnut won’t try to squeeze a “Ruby Ridge” out of this? ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/315 "2013-02-13T02:50:29Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Whattaya think? Think this is so radioactive that even the most batshit wingnut won’t try to squeeze a “Ruby Ridge” out of this? Only black, left-wing conspiracy theorists. I’d be surprised if the New Black Panther Party hasn’t made some sort of statement. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/316 "2013-02-13T02:59:02Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Whattaya think? Think this is so radioactive that even the most batshit wingnut won’t try to squeeze a “Ruby Ridge” out of this? You don’t think anybody can blame this on Obama? I mean, this guy had a huge arsenal and he just happens to go on a murder spree around the time of a gun control debate and then gets killed the day of the State of the Union address. It’s in Revelations, people! ---
**Author:** ![resting](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@resting](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/resting)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/317 "2013-02-13T03:14:51Z")
America is dying. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/318 "2013-02-13T03:35:18Z")
Ok. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/319 "2013-02-13T03:47:13Z")
> [@resting](#): > > America is dying. You and America are such drama queens. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787/320 "2013-02-13T03:57:47Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > From [LA Times:](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/dorner-shootout-big-bear-hundreds-shots.html) > > So, Pedro, is the LAPD responsible for Dorner holding people hostage for 4 days in their home? Take it somewhere else. This thread has moved on to current events. If you make it interesting or bait me hard enough maybe you’ll get your turn too. Since besides being fascinated with my opinions you are apparently a moron, one who can’t keep a single quote of mine consistently straight or do a simple paraphrase correctly, I find that unlikely to be the case. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lapd-as-judge-jury-and-executioner/649787.md?page=17)